SHOULD EVENTS BE REMOVED OR LIMITED

[Vlastslav]

Events have created a form of pvp that most tank mages and fearful players have now come to enjoy far greater than normal field pvp, which is the entire concept of UO in the first place. Instead of logging on and engaging in random pvp, people now look forward to preset, FAKE, pvp with no risk involved. Similar to wow arenas and/or duels, the pvp is set up with little to no random events taking away from what field pvp is, adapting to the situation at hand.

My opinion is to remove or limit events so people will log on and enjoy the game the way it was supposed to be played instead of logging on for events then waiting for the next one to start. So many times have we seen zero people fielding, yet an event will open up and 50 "pvpers" magically show up. By removing or limiting events people will actually be forced to go out and pvp or set up networks of fighting.

I understand by removing or limiting events, a new way to supply trophies to the shard population is needed. I suggest this be done by random monster attacks on towns, which will create pvp in itself.

[Luca|Blight]

No one is forcing you to go to the events. The problem you're seeing is no one wants to fight pussies like TG that do nothing but run off screen and hide behind archer bots.

[Vlastslav]

Choosing to fight TG is erroneous. The fact is we rarely even see but a very small population of pvpers. For instance your guild Luca, does not regularly field, guild fight, or chaos/order fight. RIP comes out maybe once a week at best. Im talking about going out and making pvp rounds and running into others doing the same on a regular basis.

[Alex21]

There is no problem at all, if you guys actually look you will find pvp. Where do you look for 'random' pvp? Brit grave? yew moongate?

Thing is most pvp is taking place in dungeons or when players randomly encounter each other whilst doing something else, you can't expect to be able to recall into somewhere and have a fight with someone there, chances are there isn't anyone there or that they arn't looking to be pked, your just expecting people to be in 'hot spots' and when there isn't anyone there we get statements like this, "fielding is shit on this server, everyone just macro's and does events.".

The problem is to many people are solely playing to build up pvp characters and expect to spend the rest of their days recalling around fighting people, maybe if people actually played the game, building wealth, participating in a guild, finding rare items and weapons and of course building that new and unique template. They would be able to find more of what they are looking for.

I can tell you i don't go out looking for pvp, but it is forced upon me sometimes in intervals as short as 20 minutes, so i really can't see a problem with field pvp.

[Galvatron]

Because archer bots keep pvp so authentic and random.

[Bong Hit]

I happen to have no problem encountering pvp action i could see how tg would have a problem when they run around in 7 man dexxer gank squads more fitting to kill balarons than actual players. Then when they actualy run into a sizable group of players ready to bear down on them they run a. to guards b. to their archer bots or c. in every direction possible in order not to die.
I like the events they really arent that frequent and i think they bring the community together rather than force it apart you find urself on teams with people you wouldnt normaly fight along side with. I have met many people aswell truced many fights over a good dd or ctf.
To say that there is no element of field pvp in these games is silly yes there is no loot or horses but you must still heal maintain a unit and structure and over all not panic and run away. This may be why your having so much trouble with the games. Tg is not much without the ability to a. run away b. rely on archer bots and c. run away.
Im sorry you do not enjoy these games but the bottom line is people do enjoy them and anytime you are looking for a fight I and neone else in rip would gladly take u on all we ask is a. you get off ur horse b. you not be near ur town and c. you stop runing away with MORE people than the group chasing you.
TG (Totally Guard dependent)

[MatronDeWinter]

I don't see the logic behind the unwarranted TG hate, this is why good topics are rarely, or poorly discussed here.

This is a very good point, these events seem more frequent than ever as of late. They completely distract from the actual game that I hope we are all here to play. As far as Alex's comment, these events take away from the other aspects of the game as well.

On any particular night, when the GM's get event happy and we have back to back to back 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 1v1magics, I almost just want to log off.

[Roser]

RIP comes out maybe once a week at best.

Nigga Please.... TG is Tremendously Gay in saying this nonsense.

I say the events are A O K. Vlastslav, is it to much to cope with a 20 min tourny once a day? Shit I would be FOR adding new and creative ones, like Tower Defense, or Matron's idea of full loot tourny's, no holds barred.

Nuff Said, I'm sure well see the result of the vote is a big ol' "stfu TG"

[Lord Cavewight of GL]

No ones going to like me for saying it.. but....

Remove all events, Focus on quests and things that were actually on OSI in 1999.
There is no real argument for events aside from... "I like them/I like the trophy system".


Now can we all stop lying to ourselves and admit this is the most un-era-accurate thing on the entire shard?


Events will never get removed though as players love them more than they love era accuracy.

[TTPMatt]

Remove events.. Add factions. PvP sky rockets.. but it wont happen :/

[Drull]

I'm not much of a pvper (there are other aspects to the game), however in the best interests of era accuracy, I would vote to see scheduled events removed.

[platypus]

Factions would be amazing, I never understood why that isn't implemented on here. I only played during T2A (quit a month into UOR) and I clearly remember there always being huge battles at Brit/Vesper bank. This would break up the monotony of the same events everyday and would make banks more than just 50 AFK macroers again. I would love to see this.

Tournies are fine...just cuz you always lose to Spanky or TTStoner doesn't mean tournies are inherently bad - it means your skills are inherently bad (such as mine). TG never actually PvPs. They provoke reds and then try to get them guard whacked or killed by NPCs somehow. They attack a red and then run for 100 screens into a guard zone or else recall or gate to town. The only time they even cast more than one offensive spell is if they outnumber their opponents by 2 or more. I've actually seen these guys gating to town while reds were chasing them, in a feeble attempt to get the red guard whacked. The only ones I've seen fight are MiG and Vlast.

[Vlastslav]

Remove all events, Focus on quests and things that were actually on OSI in 1999.
There is no real argument for events aside from... "I like them/I like the trophy system".

This is very true, the main reason we are even playing this server is to try and relive something great that we experienced so long ago and events are taking away from that. Would much rather see quests, dungeon crawls, raids, and once in awhile tournaments.

Note: This is not a TG hate thread. It is not about how you think TG pvps or what TG does. Please refer to the Trash talk section of the forums as this is about enhancing the shard through the removal or limitation of events. Just because a TG member started the thread does not make the topic any less viable.

[platypus]

I don't remember seeing any quests or "raids" during T2A. The quests I've done on here lately have all been (no offense to whoever put them together) extremely boring and were basically 200 trophy giveaways to whoever exploited them the most. The quests that were on here a year or so ago were genuinely fun and exciting. Especially the necromancer/Nu'jelm GY quest and the miner quest, which, sadly, are no longer on here. I was really dissapointed by the scavenger hunt and the fact that it turned out the same way the server birth rare giveaway and CUB did (whoever was on the first few days exploited the shit out of it and made millions, everyone else got jack).

[Dr. Octagonecologyst]

Factions would be amazing, I never understood why that isn't implemented on here. I only played during T2A (quit a month into UOR) and I clearly remember there always being huge battles at Brit/Vesper bank. This would break up the monotony of the same events everyday and would make banks more than just 50 AFK macroers again. I would love to see this.

Tournies are fine...just cuz you always lose to Spanky or TTStoner doesn't mean tournies are inherently bad - it means your skills are inherently bad (such as mine). TG never actually PvPs. They provoke reds and then try to get them guard whacked or killed by NPCs somehow. They attack a red and then run for 100 screens into a guard zone or else recall or gate to town. The only time they even cast more than one offensive spell is if they outnumber their opponents by 2 or more. I've actually seen these guys gating to town while reds were chasing them, in a feeble attempt to get the red guard whacked. The only ones I've seen fight are MiG and Vlast.

I don't see any fun is Town pvp where mages roles are reduced to healing dexxers with the occasional hally hit . I also love the idea of completely getting rid of era inaccurate instance pvp and get some "real world" pvp quests involved that at least happened in era.
Who the hell loses to TTstoner? lol There is a reason he only plays a dexxer or tamer. No skill.