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House killed again - I'm out for good, congrats!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:36 am
by Nemo the bard
Wish I could say good morning, I got house killed again last night while trying to macro. Was standing inside middle squares of Large brick and came back to death screen with the option to report Grinder as murderer. I'm out.

I understand y'all are all about era accuracy, that is cool and all but sometimes as a game develops they fix things for a reason. Fundamental safety from killing INSIDE your own house is something along those lines. Just because I live next to water or some bullshit terrain hump or dip should not give any asshole from using whatever method people are using here to kill me in the safe zone of a house. I have moved about 10 times and the same bullshit keeps happening. You can keep it, I am out.

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:26 am
by Capitalist
I'll sell you a macro safe house at cost.

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:26 pm
by Roser
Once you learn how line of sight works you wont be making this mistake ever again.

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:09 pm
by Nemo the bard
Please, explain to me how line of sight works in detail in regards to being inside a house. How are these jerk offs able to keep killing me in the middle of a Large brick?

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:09 pm
by Pro
It should just be considered a bug and fixed. The mechanism itself contributes nothing to the shard over than mild annoyance for those who understand it and grief for those who don't.

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:44 pm
by Dragor
try macro in the middle of a small house

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:27 pm
by Roser
3 ways here.

Meteor Swarm and Chain Lightning are able to target 2 tiles into your house from any wall (patio walls and L shapes are tricky be careful).

Houses with "stone wall" foundations (Castle's, Keeps, Towers) can be seen into 7 tiles from any wall (including wall tile), this means the AOE spells mentioned above can reach up to 9 tiles. The method is to cast AOE spells on the ground under the structure, if you stand 3 tiles or more away from any exterior wall you can effectively see under the house and therefore cast spells on any part of the ground your spell range can reach.

Lastly, any house can be seen into if there is a nearby "land dip". A land dip is defined as any part of ground that lay lower than the foundation that the house is placed on. Avoid going afk within casting range (10 tiles, more if AOE) of any nearby land dips, shore lines are notorious for having many land dips in them. The method is to target (set last target) any house floor tile (not ground underneath), stand under the house in a land dip and simply cast AOE spells or throw purple potions on the targeted house floor tile.

That's all, good luck.

Edit: Nice to see you posting here Pro, you filthy gargoyle.

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:08 pm
by Abyz
Just get rid of this annoyance.

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:42 pm
by Fox
If this helps:

In honoring the goal of making this shard 'the way it was' and replicating the T2A era...

Servers during T2A were flourishing with players... random newbies all over the place! Easily 1000+ players on each server, during peak times.

This mechanic (which allows killing in house spots that were designed to be 'safe'), directly prohibits the growth of the server, thereby making the rule counterproductive to one of the primary goals of the server, replicating T2A!

:shock:

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:39 pm
by G.I Joe
THIS PRACTICE NEEDS TO BE BANNED. TIME TO PUT THE NEEDS OF UOSA CITIZENS FIRST!
WE EITHER HAVE A UOSA OR WE DONT.

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:20 pm
by Roser
I think it is entirely plausible to add this LOS exploit into the camp of gold duping. Gold duping is era accurate and for obvious reasons we do not have it here.

Also, as I mention every time we have this conversation, house foundation tiles are still bugged from a years old patch that caused half of them (direction based) to act differently from the other half. I can give more info about this if needed.

I suggest that this line of enquiry be reopened and examined for the betterment of the realm.

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:54 pm
by Mens Rea
I played during T2A - not part of gameplay, unknown mechanic and/or something that people were banned for if used.

Get rid of this rubbish.

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:35 pm
by WarmApplepie
I've played this game on n off for a few years. Never gave I ever been house killed from los. Get good wizards

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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:05 pm
by Kabup
I'm still playing UO exactly because of the risk of dying and losing all your stuff. I don't want a 'safe' game, that's why WoW sucks.

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:20 pm
by Soma
Haha, hilarious.