Proposed changes to Tamed creatures

[Derrick]

heh can you give us a day w/ the new stables before you tune the dragons/WW's? hehe

Yes. The test shard will be up all day today.

[alatar]

We are aware that Silver/Dark steeds were never introduced into the game, during no era on the production shards, right? The only server to ever see this was Siege Perilous, with the introduction of the Hero/Evil (Ethics) system. I do not even believe they spawned, they were merely summoned as a part of the "powers" you could yield from having slain an opposing victim..

[Euph]

[quote="Derrick"]Euph wrote:
heh can you give us a day w/ the new stables before you tune the dragons/WW's? hehe

Yes. The test shard will be up all day today.[/quote]

heh I meant on server, so we can stash 50 oldschool dragons/WW's away:D

[Derrick]

We are aware that Silver/Dark steeds were never introduced into the game, during no era on the production shards, right? The only server to ever see this was Siege Perilous, with the introduction of the Hero/Evil (Ethics) system. I do not even believe they spawned, they were merely summoned as a part of the "powers" you could yield from having slain an opposing victim..

All the evidence I've seen indicated that these were in game for a very brief time during T2A
Modern Stratics: The Silver Steed

Currently extinct creatures that were introduced with the Good/Evil system for Siege Perilous. For a short while these animals also spawned on regular shards.

This indicates they did exist, although aparently not intentionally:
How can I tell if an item is not allowed?
This is from Oct 1999, so we are sure that the era is right:
Stratics Oct99: Silver Steed

[alatar]

The items listed below were created or obtained through the use of an exploit or bug, and are not able to be obtained or acquired through any legitimate means. They are prohibited within Ultima Online, and players who are found to have, use, trade, or sell them may have action taken against their account.

So with this being said, tell me how adding this monsters into the server is "Era Accurate" ...?

[TwoTon]

throughout my time on atlantic never one time did i ever see a mare EQ, i seen mass curse but NEVER EQ sounds a bit ridiculous to me, and if it is the case that is def the reason they changed it...

[Derrick]

throughout my time on atlantic never one time did i ever see a mare EQ, i seen mass curse but NEVER EQ sounds a bit ridiculous to me, and if it is the case that is def the reason they changed it...

Yeah. The stratics says they casted 8th circle, EQ was our best guess, but I havn't been able to find any verification of that. We'll likely be taking that out pending verification.

The items listed below were created or obtained through the use of an exploit or bug, and are not able to be obtained or acquired through any legitimate means. They are prohibited within Ultima Online, and players who are found to have, use, trade, or sell them may have action taken against their account.

So with this being said, tell me how adding this monsters into the server is "Era Accurate" ...?

Well first off that's an EA statment, not an OSI statement.
Clearly the Dark Steeds and Silver Steeds existed within the Shards or people would not have been able to exploit them into existance. What that means as to how a player might acquire one has not been stated. We have emulated other era bugs and exploits intentionally as we consider them part of the game.

[Teknix]

i remember seeing silver steeds. somebody brought it out of their stable, walked around brit bank a lot on GL or sell something at the bank, and would stable it again.

[Derrick]

Circle 7 and 8 Area Effect damage spells have been removed. With that exception all other changes will be live in morning. Patch notes will publish soon after. No spawns or spawn locations are being changed on restart, that will be addressed later.

Thanks to everyone who posted and tested for the help.

[alatar]

Circle 7 and 8 Area Effect damage spells have been removed.

This does not include mass curse correct?

[Derrick]

Circle 7 and 8 Area Effect damage spells have been removed.

This does not include mass curse correct?

Correct. Mass cure is active for creatures that have the magery level to cast it

[platy]

somethings off with the feeding.. pets go grey way too often
they should be at least a little bit more loyal when fully fed (ie. not ignoring commands)
i think this should be tested more instead of diving in.. seems tamers got a major nerf here, although accurate it seems bugged and makes it tuff for tamers to actually keep pets seeing as how they turn on each other after five commands

[TwoTon]

somethings off with the feeding.. pets go grey way too often
they should be at least a little bit more loyal when fully fed (ie. not ignoring commands)
i think this should be tested more instead of diving in.. seems tamers got a major nerf here, although accurate it seems bugged and makes it tuff for tamers to actually keep pets seeing as how they turn on each other after five commands

which helps limit them from having 10 dragons pvping us, instead let them feed 3 to 5 hehe.

[platy]

somethings off with the feeding.. pets go grey way too often
they should be at least a little bit more loyal when fully fed (ie. not ignoring commands)
i think this should be tested more instead of diving in.. seems tamers got a major nerf here, although accurate it seems bugged and makes it tuff for tamers to actually keep pets seeing as how they turn on each other after five commands

which helps limit them from having 10 dragons pvping us, instead let them feed 3 to 5 hehe.

since there's so many tamers pvping..

[platy]

anyways with a high chance of pets turning on each other i doubt you'll ever see a tamer in guards.. seems like a nice way to get guardwacked and lose drags ;p