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 Post subject: Re: Patch 123 - Jan 28, 2010: O/C Guilds, Vendors, Houses, Misc
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:27 pm 
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Are these changes live on test? I would like to test out the above meditation issue. I'm suffering from the same thing with a character of 90 med, a decreased success rate at lower mana levels.

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 Post subject: Re: Patch 123 - Jan 28, 2010: O/C Guilds, Vendors, Houses, Misc
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Are these changes live on test? I would like to test out the above meditation issue. I'm suffering from the same thing with a character of 90 med, a decreased success rate at lower mana levels.


Matron, I don’t believe they are. I logged on test to experiment with the problem. I couldn’t recreate the issue. Meditation was gaining passively as well, which leads me to believe these changes are not active on test yet.

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The changes are not active on test, it's a few patches behind.

There has been no change whatsoever to meditation success rate.

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I’m having a very difficult time successfully meditating (on a char with ~62 meditation).

Is the chance to successfully meditate scaled based on mana percentage? Considering, I’m calling meditation when mana is <=10, I assume if the chance to successfully meditate was based on mana percentage I could change the condition and see more success… Could this be verified?

Yes it is based on percentage, if you are trying to med at <10% mana and you have 62 med you're going to fail a lot, but almost certainly gain when successful. You should target medding when you are 25-30ish% mana. (these are not preciecely optimal figures)

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 Post subject: Re: Patch 123 - Jan 28, 2010: O/C Guilds, Vendors, Houses, Misc
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I more specifically wanted to test the quantity of mana, in which meditation is optimum to gain. More specifically if it is effected by your intel, preventing you from GM'ing it with less than 90 (or so) mana.

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 Post subject: Re: Patch 123 - Jan 28, 2010: O/C Guilds, Vendors, Houses, Misc
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MatronDeWinter wrote:
I more specifically wanted to test the quantity of mana, in which meditation is optimum to gain. More specifically if it is effected by your intel, preventing you from GM'ing it with less than 90 (or so) mana.


Derrick fixed that a patch or two ago; i was able to GM meditation with only 50 int.

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hiicha wrote:
MatronDeWinter wrote:
I more specifically wanted to test the quantity of mana, in which meditation is optimum to gain. More specifically if it is effected by your intel, preventing you from GM'ing it with less than 90 (or so) mana.


Derrick fixed that a patch or two ago; i was able to GM meditation with only 50 int.


I had to raise my intelligence to get gains...I went hours without gaining a couple weeks back. I went on irc and I believe it was either Faust or Kabal that told me to raise my intelligence. I unlocked intel lowered dex and when my stats began to gain so did my meditation. I wasn't able to GM it until my intelligence hit 100.

With gains no longer passive I am putting loops using meditation every 10 seconds. If I am casting 6th then 2 iterations 7th 4.

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hiicha wrote:
MatronDeWinter wrote:
I more specifically wanted to test the quantity of mana, in which meditation is optimum to gain. More specifically if it is effected by your intel, preventing you from GM'ing it with less than 90 (or so) mana.


Derrick fixed that a patch or two ago; i was able to GM meditation with only 50 int.


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