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Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:59 pm
by Khirsah
Looking to buy a lockbox that's crafted higher than 50/50, but something less than GM. Is there one on a vendor anywhere? Tried looking around Yew, but couldn't find one.

My lockpicking skill (real) is stuck at 74.4. For some reason it won't go higher but I can't pick a GM box yet. Hoping for something to get me through this weird in-between phase.

Thanks!

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:05 pm
by PluckyDuck
http://wiki.uosecondage.com/Lockpicking

> You will need a box crafted by a 50carp/50tinker character until 76 skill then you may switch to a GM crafted box until 95

Let your macro run longer.

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:46 am
by Drunk'n Disorder
I agree with Plucky... I only had three boxes to get to 95 lockpicking...

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:33 pm
by SighelmofWyrmgard
There might be some misunderstanding here, comparing (real, trained) skill with total (stat-modified) ability.

Depending on your Dexterity, real skill 74.4 will give you a higher ability; at a 100 Dex, I think this is 76.0 ability.

Difficulty is based on stat-modified ability, not (only) "real, trained" skill: once you can't fail, you can no longer earn skill at that same level of difficulty; if your ability is >= 76.0, it's probably time to use GM boxes.

It's been a long, long time since I trained my lockpicker. I'm guessing you're ready for GM boxes, but expect to fail a lot, and to destroy a lot of lockpicks.

If you need a lot of lockpicks, I've got a big stack I'd be willing to sell.

SS

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:33 pm
by Khirsah
I looked at that Wiki before, and saw this line:

"Note: On a "50/50" box, you will not gain lockpicking past 74.4 "Real" skill.". With 13 Dex, my real skill is 75.2 So it seems like I don't have enough to pick GM yet?

I tried running my macro overnight, and still no gains. I guess I'll create another 50/50 box just to make sure. But for whatever reason, the 3 box method doesn't seem to work for me. Could be doing something wrong I guess.

SighelmofWyrmgard: I'd buy some lockpicks off of you! Looking for like 2k of them.

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:19 pm
by PluckyDuck
Worst case scenario, there are a ton of chests in inns and dungeons that you can pick until you get to 76, I believe I have only ever used a 50/50 and a 100/100 to get to 94.9, but I also locked my dex at 10 and put on some plate to drop it further.

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:50 pm
by Drunk'n Disorder
Make sure you have your skill pointed up. If you're at 700 skill points total, make sure you have a different skill pointed down...

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:43 pm
by SighelmofWyrmgard
Drunk'n Disorder wrote:Make sure you have your skill pointed up. If you're at 700 skill points total, make sure you have a different skill pointed down...
This, maybe, is a good catch.

Otherwise @ Khirsah: with only 13 Dex (74.4 skill / 75.2 ability) you should still be able to gain from 50/50 boxes, so far as I can imagine; I can't think of any reason why you should need a "transition" box halfway between 50/50 & GM (whatever all I don't remember, I DO remember that I only ever used those two types of boxes to get to 95.0 ability).

Re: selling lockpicks, I'll happily sell 2K, but @ end-user prices (10gp ea.); 20K to me in 1 hit, or 240gp one-hundred-times over (24K) to buy from NPC shopkeepers; neither the ingots consumed nor my time were ever free. PM me, here in Forums, if you retain interest.

Good Luck.

SS

EDIT:
P.S. What failure messages do you get from GM boxes?
SS

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:28 pm
by advanced1
Here is a link for a great Lock Picking guide.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27998&hilit=lockpick+guide

Re: Less than GM lockbox? But more than 50/50!

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:49 am
by Fox
If you're still running into trouble let me know, i think I have a set of boxes saved made from different tinker levels. You can use them, locked down, within my keep, or something. Message me here or on discord!