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 Post subject: Bolas?
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Can we see these implemented?

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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era accurate? never heard of em

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Neither are a lot of things on this shard, but I was just wondering if the line is crossed at points A B and C, if they could be crossed at other points as well in order to keep the game interesting.

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point in fact, most/all stuff here is era accurate, hence Faust's favorite quote..
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* We aim to replicate the T2A era as best we can and within technical limitations as a whole.
* We do not intend to ever change any aspect of normal gameplay to particularly favor any playstyle or to protect or further expose any players to the in-game risk that was a large part of this era.
* We will especially not pull aspects of other eras into this one, even with an overwhelming demand of players.

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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I'm on foor 99% of the time, bring on the bolas!!
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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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Van Raily wrote:
Neither are a lot of things on this shard


What isn't accurate?

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Honestly though becuase our Era date was moved to Nov 99, when exactly did the Orcs with tribal green masks, trammel stones with no use (at the time) and bola balls drop?

it WAS before UOR, becuase it was a teaser, our date is only a few weeks from UOR.

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tekai wrote:
Honestly though becuase our Era date was moved to Nov 99, when exactly did the Orcs with tribal green masks, trammel stones with no use (at the time) and bola balls drop?

it WAS before UOR, becuase it was a teaser, our date is only a few weeks from UOR.


It was before UO:R for sure, because people were farming moonstones like they were going out of style.

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tekai wrote:
Honestly though becuase our Era date was moved to Nov 99, when exactly did the Orcs with tribal green masks, trammel stones with no use (at the time) and bola balls drop?

it WAS before UOR, becuase it was a teaser, our date is only a few weeks from UOR.


The UOR publish went live in April 2000.

Our November '99 cutoff date is 5 months before the publish, not a few weeks.


Server Publish Feb 23 2000 10:22AM CST - http://wiki.uosecondage.com/?title=2000_Patch_Notes wrote:
Moonstones

Moonstones will be found on various monsters. The exact nature and functionality of these items will be detailed at a later time.

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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OHSNO i was off by 4 months on something i remembered from 12 years ago =)

Thanks Faust for clearing that up.

Now please find me that all kill change stealth-nerf patch note. there has to be complaints about it on whatever newsgroups you get lots of your info from. I really would just like solid proof, other then the "lack of targeting actions using the all command being allowed months into UOR" as our basis for change. please? it is a very reasonable request.

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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I don't really enjoy getting into taming issues personally... but taking a quick look wielded a few things that only took a matter of a couple minutes.


Have you noticed that it doesn't work with all commands? I have been giving
commands like "All kill" and I know the pets are tamed hard, but only one
will respond.

The all follow seems to work right though


While summoning water eles tonight, i did an "all release" and lo, they
all disappeared. Prior to this, I had to say it once for each ele. Any
full-time tamers notice any other difference, like all kill?


I will tell you there is a bug with the 'all kill' command, it only works on
one pet no matter how many pets you have. You could have a 1000 dragons and
give an all kill command and only one responds.



That the ignorant GC SOBs, don't know this kind of stuff makes me think it
is a faked screen shot.


So even if the screen shot wasn't faked, IT IS COMPLETELY POINTLESS TO HAVE
THAT MANY DRAGONS! I can't put it any plainer or more emphatic then that,
the dozens of dragons thing DOES NOT WORK!!!! It is a fake, it is a hollow
threat, it isn't real. I fall back to my original comment that this is just
a hysterical response and add: Pobably doctered screen shot.


It is that simple, tame two dogs, give the all kill command on a rabbit, see
how many attack.


I can accept a certain level of ignorance, I can accept a certain level of
disagreement. I draw the line when something is a demonstrable as checking
out the all kill command being broken that can be done in 2 minutes is
ignored so people can say the sky is falling. All guard does work, but
anyone that is guarded has that appearing over their head.


The patch note for this has already been listed in the past and definitely isn't a stealth nerf..

New tinkering menu, pets, auto-stacking, and more. May 25 1999 9:41AM CST - http://wiki.uosecondage.com/?title=1999_Patch_Notes wrote:
You can now give all your pets orders by prefacing your order with "all." For example, saying, "all follow me" will make all your pets follow you. The list of commands this works with is:
all follow me
all guard me
all come
all stay
all guard me
all stop


Kaivan mentioned before that this list of commands denote all targetable commands since those function only works for your closest pet when the command is spoken. The google comments above is from June '99, November '99, and April '00 which are before our cutoff , on our cutoff, and after our cutoff before the UOR publish in late April '00.

Hopefully this finally clears up the issue for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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Should [guarded] be appearing over peoples heads here?

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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I don't know if it should or not.

I just recall tags like (invulnerable) and (frozen) that appended to a character's name when the flag aplied.

Edit:

nm, it did show the guarded message...

Reputation Guide - http://update.uo.com/repfaq/pets.html wrote:
How does pet guarding work in the new system?
Issuing the guard command sets you as the pet's controller for the duration of the guarding plus an additional 2-minutes after the pet stops guarding. Guarded items will have the word [Guarded] put over them. Using a guarded item (like a door) or taking a guarded item will flag the perpetrator as a Criminal. The pet guarding the item will automatically attack the perpetrator flagging both you and your pet as Aggressors (to the perpetrator). If the pet kills the perpetrator you cannot be reported because the perpetrator is a Criminal.


This was written inside of the t2a reputation FAQ back in '98.

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 8d53684b7b

Re read that, the post at the bottom talks about how it works, and its posted in nov 99.

it also talks about speed, and them not getting cought on brambles (better movement AI)

Quote:
It takes a monumental effort to raise taming to the point where Kill orders are
obeyed quickly. So even All Kill now works, and if a pk could get his 7
dragons to all follow him into a gate at once, and see you before you tossed an
EV into them (in which case they do not see you as the attacker, so they fight
with it instead) and you KOP'd, and he ordered ALL KILL, you'd have a pretty
good chance that half or more would ignore the order, and just get in the way
of the others.


like that quote for example.

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 Post subject: Re: Bolas?
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Oh wow faust, you just gave me a wealth of information.




http://groups.google.com/group/rec.game ... 34a6785d23

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No, 1 bug with taming, the teleporting bears. Take them away and game
> is pretty balanced.

Heh. I had my tamer/ranger on SP a few nights ago. A twink was screwing
with me so I had my griz kill him. Damn if the griz didn't turn around
and kill me. I'd say it's pretty balanced but I'd like to see that bug
removed alright ...


Teleporting bears please!

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