UO Second Age

Ill Gates wrote:This server is about era accuracy. Cool your jets.

fox_phyre wrote:That is a good point mens rea. Just because it was physically possible in era does not necessarily mean it was era accurate. I don't see how this exploit could be replicated with what was legally accessible in era. By the measure of "it was in the code, at some point" we could pull monsters that weren't in the world but were in the code out, could we not? I have heard there are some monsters "in the code" that were not ever in the game during t2a, should we put them into our world because they were technically possible like this LOS Bug?

Hey all! I started playing UO before day one (my Dad was an original beta tester). Then we got both our accounts banned around late 1998 for flying boats.

Lol I have already been punished for that so the way I see it I have nothing to lose by elaborating... they can't prosecute me twice can they? Anyway, I think the program he used was called SourceForge? It might still be around even. What happened was that we started fooling around with this third party program in our own shard, using it to basically customize our own Britannia. We found that certain features of this program actually worked when applied to the actual UO client, not just our player-run shard. One feature was that I could actually change the Y (up/down) coordinate of any "tile" in the UO world and only I could see this going down. We found that one way to take advantage of this funny quirk was to get to otherwise unreachable locations and mark runes to some of the craziest places in UO - mountain tops, server boundaries, etc. The real breakthrough was when we realized we could change the Y coords of water "tiles" as well. This allowed us to place a boat on a pre-decided upon tile, then board the vessel and use the third party program to make our boat exist about 20 tiles "over" the water. Then we could "fly" our boat along the shore and look for towers/castles close enough to the water. Once we found a suitable target, we would jump off and rob the place blind (this is way before anyone at OSI ever thought of secure containers or "I wish to lock this item down" lol). One day, however, an off-duty GM spotted my pops unloading his stolen bounty near the Britain docks...BAM! Insta-banned. Both of his accounts, my uncle's account, and my account (I was maybe 13 or 14 at the time hehe). We tried to appeal multiple times over about 3 or 4 years but they didn't wanna hear it. Finally maybe 5 years later they told us we were "allowed" to buy a new copy of the game and start from scratch, but that our old accounts had been gone for quite some time.

Well now im back again and, thanks to some cool people on this forum and the UO Stratics forum, im back on my feet and having lots of fun playing again. And no cheating this time!

Kaivan wrote:It is because some players are demanding that I provide 100% absolute proof of LoS, which is not possible to provide for any mechanic without going back in time and actually showing it in action. All mechanics are to the best of our knowledge, and expecting some greater proof of a mechanic because it is something undesirable is a double standard.

Drunk'n Disorder wrote:

Kaivan wrote:It is because some players are demanding that I provide 100% absolute proof of LoS, which is not possible to provide for any mechanic without going back in time and actually showing it in action. All mechanics are to the best of our knowledge, and expecting some greater proof of a mechanic because it is something undesirable is a double standard.

Runebooks are an example of allowing something because it's convenient... Maybe we can disallow killing people in the most desirable and expensive domiciles, you know, for convenience. I see more of an argument to stop LOS bug than to allow runebooks.