Research into Shipwrecks (MIBs)

[Daolin]

I wanted to know what kind and how much loot I could expect from a MIB I fish up. I haven't really seen any detailed information on this anywhere. Would I be crazy to buy an MIB at 2.5k? Crazy not to buy one at 1.5k? I have no idea. So I decided to conduct my own research on what you can find. I set sail on my boat to 100 MIB locations and reeled in the treasure to see what I could find. After much sorting, reselling, and identifying, I came to these results:

100 MIBs Later
95 wooden chests

5 metal chests

57 assorted bones and body parts

• 2 types of arms (left and right arm)
• 2 types of heads (one looking west, one looking east)
• 2 types of legs (left and right leg)
• 6 types of bone piles
• 1 type of torso
• 3 types of skulls (west facing, NE facing, and forward facing)
• 2 types of pelvis (N-S running, W-E running)

33 seashells: 9 types

• 3 shell
• 4 shells
• conch shell
• nautilus

2 large paintings (facing south)

32 small paintings/portraits: 9 types

• Man? facing east (2 types: no appearance difference, but may position differently on a tile).
• Man? facing south (2 types: no appearance difference, but may position differently on a tile).
• Blue dress facing east
• Red dress facing south
• Gold image facing south
• Green dress facing south
• Purple dress facing east

29 pillows: 10 types

• White round
• Grey round
• Long rectangular N to S
• Long rectangular W to E
• Fancy white square
• Fancy grey square with tassels
• Large grey square W to E
• Large grey square SW-W to NE-E
• Large wrinkled square W-E
• Large wrinkled square SW-W to NE-E

3 stools

15 barrel staves: 4 types

• 2 south facing (stave lengths different)
• 2 north facing (stave lengths different)

5 unfinished barrels

4 broken clocks

9 globes: 2 types

• SW facing
• NE facing

960 scrolls (40 different spells, all circle 2-6) -- Sold

390 weapons:

• 29 vanquishing
• 17 power
• 33 force
• 54 might
• 11 silver (just silver, no damage mod)
• The rest junk (no damage mods, all crooks, daggers, cleavers, etc) -- Sold

450 armor and shields:

• 33 invulnerability
• 31 fortification
• 61 hardening
• The rest junk (non-heater/metal kite shields, etc) -- Sold

665 charged items:

• 14 lightning items (148 charges)
• 17 fireball items (198 charges)
• 16 harm items (180 charges)
• 10 magic arrow items (113 charges)
• 9 greater heal items (53 charges)
• 13 heal items (197 charges)
• 34 protection items (669 charges)
• 54 nightsight items (1,094 charges)
• 14 item identification (1,112 charges)
• The rest junk

Masks:

• 1 deer mask
• 1 orc mask
• 8 bear masks

6,330 reagents total

720 gems -- Sold

195,000 gold from chests

65,000 gold from selling junk weapons, armor, and gems to NPCs

20,000 gold from selling scrolls to a scribe friend. (You'd get more from a NPC probably)

Total: 280,000 gold and lots of items and resources.

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My next post below is going to be asking how to price much of this. From what I have pulled together, it would seem like its a steal to buy the MIBs for up to 5k each. Keep in mind though that selling your MIBs puts the cash into your hands instantly. It takes time to fish up the MIBs, sort the loot, identify the loot, liquidate junk, then auction/vendor the decent stuff. That is time where a fisher could be pulling up more MIBs. I'd say 2k or less per MIB is pretty fair given the amount of work here.

[Daolin]

Basic Pricing Guide
I understand that an item sells for whatever a person is willing to pay for it. However, you may wait a month if you sell too high, and someone may buy in a second and resell if you sell too low. I am looking for the average price for items, and i'm willing to sort of average what people think items are worth.

Imagine you have acquired the following weapons below, how would you price them? I would try to come up with an objective price by putting together a variety of factors.

Weapons
Damage:
Ruin (+1): + ____ gold?
Might (+3): + ____ gold?
Force (+5): + ____ gold?
Power (+7): + ____ gold?
Vanquishing (+9): + _____ gold?
Silver (x2 undead): + _____ gold?

Tactics:
Accurate (+5): + ____ gold?
Surpassingly accurate (+10): + ____ gold?
Eminently accurate (+15): + ____ gold?
Exceedingly accurate (+20): + _____ gold?
Supremely accurate (+25): + _____ gold?

Durability:
Durable (+10 item hp): + ____ gold?
Substantial (+20 item hp): + ____ gold?
Massive (+30 item hp): + ____ gold?
Fortified (+40 item hp): + _____ gold?
Indestructable (+50 item hp): + _____ gold?

Weapon Type: (Add up total from damage, tactics, and durability to multiply times modifier)
Popular weapon: x ____ modifier?
Unrepairable popular weapon: x ____ modifier?
Unpopular weapon: x ____ modifier?

Armor
Armor factor:
Defense (+5): + ____ gold?
Guarding (+10): + ____ gold?
Hardening (+15): + ____ gold?
Fortification (+20): + _____ gold?
Invulnerability (+25): + _____ gold?

Durability:
Durable (+5 item hp): + ____ gold?
Substantial (+10 item hp): + ____ gold?
Massive (+15 item hp): + ____ gold?
Fortified (+20 item hp): + _____ gold?
Indestructable (+25 item hp): + _____ gold?

Armor Type: (Add up total from armor factor and durability to multiply times modifier)
Heater/Metal Kite Shield: x ____ modifier?
Plate gorget/gloves/helmet: x ____ modifier?
Plate arms/legs: x ____ modifier?
Plate tunic: x ____ modifier?

Chain coif: x ____ modifier?
Chain legs: x ____ modifier?
Chain tunic: x ____ modifier?

Ring gloves: x ____ modifier?
Ring arms/legs: x ____ modifier?
Ring tunic: x ____ modifier?

Studded gorget/gloves: x ____ modifier?
Studded arms/legs: x ____ modifier?
Studded tunic: x ____ modifier?

Leather gorget/gloves/hat: x ____ modifier?
Leather arms/legs: x ____ modifier?
Leather tunic: x ____ modifier?

Charged Items
Magic arrow: ____ per charge?
Harm: ____ per charge?
Fireball: ____ per charge?
Lightning: ____ per charge?

Heal: ____ per charge?
Greater Heal: ____ per charge?
Protection: ____ per charge?
Magic reflect: ____ per charge?
Invisibility: ____ per charge?

Night sight: ____ per charge?
Item identification: ____ per charge?
Teleport: ____ per charge?

[HardCore]

Nice work. Out of curiosity, did you try to sail out to an MiB and not have it come up? I was out fishing last night and randomly pulled up a chest. Figured someone popped the MiB and I happen to sail over it.

[Daolin]

Nice work. Out of curiosity, did you try to sail out to an MiB and not have it come up? I was out fishing last night and randomly pulled up a chest. Figured someone popped the MiB and I happen to sail over it.

You can't pull up a chest unless you have the MIB message on you. I have pulled up another MIB/Map when i was pulling up MIB preloot though.

[Daolin]

Added pricing section. I tell you what. If someone who regularly sells these items answers my pricing questions, i'll think of some sort of cash or item reward. I'm also hoping to hear from more than one person. I'd like to see different views on pricing and find some common ground.

[HardCore]

I was fishing....I pulled up a shell, a skull, and a treasure chest. I had 0 open MIB's on me. Explain that.

[Daolin]

I was fishing....I pulled up a shell, a skull, and a treasure chest. I had 0 open MIB's on me. Explain that.

Weird It works like t-maps. You can't go to a t-map site and just dig one up. It requires the t-map. The same works for MIBs. You need the MIB on you for that spot. Your case, however, I have no idea. Truly freakish.

[Brules]

So $280k and you haven't sold any weapons/armor/items yet?

So grand total could be $500k+?

Epic post man!

[Daolin]

I'm going to try to tackle one of these at a time and see how it works to price something. I tried going out into the world and looking at how items are priced. Very often I found that some attributes are never considered, and that the prices were very inconsistent even on the same vendor.

Weapons
Damage:
Ruin (+1): + 25 gold
Might (+3): + 100 gold
Force (+5): + 350 gold
Power (+7): + 1,500 gold
Vanquishing (+9): + 4,000 gold

Tactics:
Accurate (+5): + 100 gold
Surpassingly accurate (+10): + 200 gold
Eminently accurate (+15): + 500 gold
Exceedingly accurate (+20): + 1,500 gold
Supremely accurate (+25): + 4,000 gold

Durability:
Durable (+10 item hp): + 50 gold
Substantial (+20 item hp): + 100 gold
Massive (+30 item hp): + 200 gold
Fortified (+40 item hp): + 350 gold
Indestructable (+50 item hp): + 550 gold

Weapon Type: (Add up total from damage, tactics, and durability to multiply times modifier)
Halberd: x 2 modifier (x9 if two dmg mods, x10 if perfect)
Above average weapon (PvP worthy): x 1.5 modifier (x4 if two dmg mods, x5 if perfect)
Average weapon (PvE worthy): x 0.7 modifier (x1 if two dmg mods)
Below average weapon (lol): x 0.1 modifier (x0.25 if two dmg mods)

After Weapon Modifiers:
Silver (x2 undead): +15% to PvE weapons after all modifiers.
Ghoul's Touch (para): +3-13% (charge/3 = %) to PvP weapons after all modifiers.
Thunder (lightning): +3-13% (charge/3 = %) to PvP weapons after all modifiers.
Daemon's/Dragon's Breath (fireball): +3-13% (charge/3 = %) to PvP weapons after all modifiers.
Wounding (harm): +1-5% (charge/8 = %) to PvP weapons after all modifiers.
Evil (curse): +1-5% (charge/8 = %) to PvP weapons after all modifiers.

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Example items:

Halberd:

• Indestructable, +25 Vanq. Halberd = 85,550
• Vanq. Halberd = 8,000

Above average:

• Indestructable, +25 Vanq. Kryss = 42,750 (Too low; consider 50k at least)
• Vanq. kryss = 6,000 (Good)
• +10 silver fortified bardiche of power = 9,430
• +20 power qstaff with 27 charges of harm = 9,800 (way too low, consider 20k)

Average:

• Indestructable, +25 Vanq. Axe = 8,550 (too high)
• Power mace = 1,050 (price fine)
• +20 power Axe with 27 charges of harm = 3,270

Below average:

• Indestructable, +25 Vanq. Hammerpick = 2,100 (Never worth anything?)
• Force gnarled staff = 35

Can someone tell me if these example prices are sound or crazy?

Thanks to Caswallon and kabal for helping me work on this.

[Germ]

I would say they are sound to on the low end. My personal limited experience.

Germ

[Kith]

I have been looking for a guide like this thank you. Any updates to the pricing?

[SoundofGod]

I hate to bring up an old post, but:

I did an MiB and got the chest. I'm usually watching tv when i'm doing MiB's and i didn't notice that i had got the chest, so i hit the fishing button again. I looked down and noticed that the chest was at my feet and i pulled out another pillow. "hmm?" I kept fishing and i got another chest.....

Also, sometimes i'll do a chest - get a bone pile - get a painting - then get an MiB?

Weird.

I appreciate it!

But weird.

[Lazarus]

All I know is I'm about to start fishing. What is needed to do a MiB or get one besides fishing and a boat?

[Krats]

Fishing Pole! and skill!

[SoundofGod]

Fishing Pole! and skill!

GM Patience.

ANyone know if you can enter mult. locations and have them plotted on the map and just go point to point? it would make my life 10x easier.