Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:57 am
I've GM'd stealth on two characters since joining this shard, so I thought I'd post a brief guide on how to do it. I am by no means claiming that this is the best way, it's just my way.
A few observations:
* Every time I've looked, the Thief Guildmaster has been in the Blue Boar in Britain. I'll attach a screenshot.
* My understanding is that the skill checks for Hiding and Stealth are more difficult when you are around other players. Therefore it is to your benefit to practice these skills at a bank. You can use West Brit Bank, but be warned that I've seen people training their Detect Hidden skill at West Brit, and you will not gain Stealth if you are constantly being revealed after Hiding.
* Above 80, Hiding gains are really slow. You will most likely GM Stealth before you GM Hiding. Once you have GM'd Stealth, your Hiding will probably be in the low 90s, and from there you can just finish your training through normal gameplay if you like.
* From 0 Hiding / 0 Stealth, it'll probably take 2-3 days to get to 9X Hiding / 100 Stealth, less if you leave yourself logged in while you sleep.
* Stealth checks become more difficult as you add AR. So, once your gains become slow, throw on a piece of armor and see if the gains start to get better. If you fail constantly with no gains after adding the piece of armor, take it back off. Do this up to a limit of 15-17 AR (I think I GM'd my first guy with 16, and second with 17).
Before you can start training Stealth, you'll need to raise Hiding to 80. I do not recommend starting a new character with Hiding skill, because getting from 0-80 on your own will be a very quick process.
Macro:
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00 sec
Copy/Paste:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Once you have reached 80 in Hiding, run and buy Stealth from the Thief Guildmaster. As I mentioned, in Britain, I have always found him in the same spot. I'll attach a screenshot at the end.
This is my Stealth macro. I created it based on suggestions that I have read in other threads here on the forum. Hide, then play it. The macro is designed to hide you if you are not hidden, stealth until you fail the check, then hide and repeat. I know I'm not the most efficient person in the world with Razor, but for me, this macro has GM'd the skill without getting hung up or going into endless loops. Just stand somewhere and play the macro, and check it periodically to add armor and make sure it's running as it should.
Macro:
If SysMessage: "you begin to move quietly."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you have hidden yourself well."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you can't seem to hide here."
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you fail in your attempt to move unnoticed."
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you must hide first"
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you must wait a few moments to use another skill."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Copy/Paste:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you begin to move quietly.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you have hidden yourself well.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you can't seem to hide here.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you fail in your attempt to move unnoticed.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must hide first
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must wait a few moments to use another skill.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Hope this helps!
A few observations:
* Every time I've looked, the Thief Guildmaster has been in the Blue Boar in Britain. I'll attach a screenshot.
* My understanding is that the skill checks for Hiding and Stealth are more difficult when you are around other players. Therefore it is to your benefit to practice these skills at a bank. You can use West Brit Bank, but be warned that I've seen people training their Detect Hidden skill at West Brit, and you will not gain Stealth if you are constantly being revealed after Hiding.
* Above 80, Hiding gains are really slow. You will most likely GM Stealth before you GM Hiding. Once you have GM'd Stealth, your Hiding will probably be in the low 90s, and from there you can just finish your training through normal gameplay if you like.
* From 0 Hiding / 0 Stealth, it'll probably take 2-3 days to get to 9X Hiding / 100 Stealth, less if you leave yourself logged in while you sleep.
* Stealth checks become more difficult as you add AR. So, once your gains become slow, throw on a piece of armor and see if the gains start to get better. If you fail constantly with no gains after adding the piece of armor, take it back off. Do this up to a limit of 15-17 AR (I think I GM'd my first guy with 16, and second with 17).
Before you can start training Stealth, you'll need to raise Hiding to 80. I do not recommend starting a new character with Hiding skill, because getting from 0-80 on your own will be a very quick process.
Macro:
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00 sec
Copy/Paste:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Once you have reached 80 in Hiding, run and buy Stealth from the Thief Guildmaster. As I mentioned, in Britain, I have always found him in the same spot. I'll attach a screenshot at the end.
This is my Stealth macro. I created it based on suggestions that I have read in other threads here on the forum. Hide, then play it. The macro is designed to hide you if you are not hidden, stealth until you fail the check, then hide and repeat. I know I'm not the most efficient person in the world with Razor, but for me, this macro has GM'd the skill without getting hung up or going into endless loops. Just stand somewhere and play the macro, and check it periodically to add armor and make sure it's running as it should.
Macro:
If SysMessage: "you begin to move quietly."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you have hidden yourself well."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you can't seem to hide here."
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you fail in your attempt to move unnoticed."
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you must hide first"
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you must wait a few moments to use another skill."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Copy/Paste:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you begin to move quietly.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you have hidden yourself well.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you can't seem to hide here.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you fail in your attempt to move unnoticed.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must hide first
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must wait a few moments to use another skill.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Hope this helps!