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 Post subject: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:57 am 
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I've GM'd stealth on two characters since joining this shard, so I thought I'd post a brief guide on how to do it. I am by no means claiming that this is the best way, it's just my way. :)

A few observations:
* Every time I've looked, the Thief Guildmaster has been in the Blue Boar in Britain. I'll attach a screenshot.
* My understanding is that the skill checks for Hiding and Stealth are more difficult when you are around other players. Therefore it is to your benefit to practice these skills at a bank. You can use West Brit Bank, but be warned that I've seen people training their Detect Hidden skill at West Brit, and you will not gain Stealth if you are constantly being revealed after Hiding.
* Above 80, Hiding gains are really slow. You will most likely GM Stealth before you GM Hiding. Once you have GM'd Stealth, your Hiding will probably be in the low 90s, and from there you can just finish your training through normal gameplay if you like.
* From 0 Hiding / 0 Stealth, it'll probably take 2-3 days to get to 9X Hiding / 100 Stealth, less if you leave yourself logged in while you sleep.
* Stealth checks become more difficult as you add AR. So, once your gains become slow, throw on a piece of armor and see if the gains start to get better. If you fail constantly with no gains after adding the piece of armor, take it back off. Do this up to a limit of 15-17 AR (I think I GM'd my first guy with 16, and second with 17).

Before you can start training Stealth, you'll need to raise Hiding to 80. I do not recommend starting a new character with Hiding skill, because getting from 0-80 on your own will be a very quick process.

Macro:
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00 sec

Copy/Paste:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11

Once you have reached 80 in Hiding, run and buy Stealth from the Thief Guildmaster. As I mentioned, in Britain, I have always found him in the same spot. I'll attach a screenshot at the end.

This is my Stealth macro. I created it based on suggestions that I have read in other threads here on the forum. Hide, then play it. The macro is designed to hide you if you are not hidden, stealth until you fail the check, then hide and repeat. I know I'm not the most efficient person in the world with Razor, but for me, this macro has GM'd the skill without getting hung up or going into endless loops. Just stand somewhere and play the macro, and check it periodically to add armor and make sure it's running as it should.

Macro:
If SysMessage: "you begin to move quietly."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you have hidden yourself well."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you can't seem to hide here."
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you fail in your attempt to move unnoticed."
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you must hide first"
UseSkill Hiding
Pause 11.00sec
Else
If SysMessage: "you must wait a few moments to use another skill."
UseSkill Stealth
Pause 11.00sec

Copy/Paste:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you begin to move quietly.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you have hidden yourself well.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you can't seem to hide here.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you fail in your attempt to move unnoticed.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must hide first
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must wait a few moments to use another skill.
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:11

Hope this helps!


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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where do i copy and paste that macro to? or do i have to build the macro manually?


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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You can copy and paste the macro into Notepad, and then save it into your \Razor\Macros directory with the extension .macro. The next time you open Razor, you should see the macro on your list.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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AR or weight?Because Excceptionnal armor offer more AR


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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Ability to stealth is based on AR. I always use non-exceptional stuff when training stealth, personally, just because it's cheap.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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Just macro hiding..it doesn't take long and put this into your stealth macro once you GM it
Use Skill Stealth
Pause 2 secs
if sys msg "fail"
Use skill hiding
Else
Pause 10 secs
run this macro and all you have to do to start it off is hide first
it's an easy macro and extremely fast
however if you are revealed you may have to hide again as it will throw the macro Timer off
so hide where no one can see you as you practice.


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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Given the variety of messages that you can get when macroing stealth, I would think that macro would get stuck and not re-hide you if you are revealed.

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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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I am a GM Stealther because of it


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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as a GM in hiding your only concern really is the stealth part...GM hiding first then use this macro. I did have to restart a couple of times...so you may want a safe place to do it "like in a house" or in a part of town hardly anyone ever goes or is hard to reach and noone knows or cares about.


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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The only places I had to restart was in the middle of a road and in the middle of a bank if that gets the point across


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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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I was able to train Stealth up to 86.0 with just my newbie robe on. Gains became very slow near there, so I began using Bone Armor. I'll update with progress.

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Hey great macro, you have some skills for sure...any clue on why this macro goes silly from time to time-I've noticed it rapidly looping especially after a world save-other than that this is one good to go macro-thank you for your time!


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Mikel123 wrote:
I was able to train Stealth up to 86.0 with just my newbie robe on. Gains became very slow near there, so I began using Bone Armor. I'll update with progress.


Just threw on a Bone Armor chest piece and was able to hit GM off of that (13 AR).

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 Post subject: Re: Brief Guide to Training Stealth (w/Razor Macro)
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Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get any of these macros to work for me. Or any other stealth macro for that matter. Does anyone have another macro I could try, gaining at high level on this skill is as mind numbing as fishing or mining. Thanks all


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Strabo wrote:
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get any of these macros to work for me. Or any other stealth macro for that matter. Does anyone have another macro I could try, gaining at high level on this skill is as mind numbing as fishing or mining. Thanks all


Here is what I use.
Code:
!Loop
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|47
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:00.2000000
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you must hide
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:10.5000000
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.IfAction|4|0|you fail
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:10.5000000
Assistant.Macros.UseSkillAction|21
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:10.5000000
Assistant.Macros.ElseAction
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:05
Assistant.Macros.PauseAction|00:00:05
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction
Assistant.Macros.EndIfAction


If you still have trouble you might need to adjust your armor some. You can go from 0 - 60 with a newbie/death robe. 55-75 with about 9AR, 70-90 with 12AR.
From about 89-95 13, 94-98 14, 98-GM 15.

The last few points (like 99.6-gm) sometimes I switch it up to 16-18.

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