You all should be ashamed!

[Faust]

Not as long as it takes for me to hit Alt+F4 after seeing the obvious group of 3+ people sitting outside my castle setting this sync up on a character that mattered such as a stat PK.

Dying on a character due to this exploit that 'didn't matter' <-- means exactly that... life still cotinues if you can believe it or not.

[the bazookas]

... Furthermore, if you are alive and start getting targeted it's extremely easy to recover your HP by healing or insta logging out of the property altogether if you are unable to heal.

Just FYI, you cannot instant log for 2 minutes after a player has aggroed on you.

[Pirul]

Not to mention that you'll probably see a gate pop up a couple of tiles from your house...and by the time you see who comes out of hiding from that gate it will be too late as you'll already be dead. The guy posting above me would pretty much make sure you don't even know what hit you leaving you with 0 reaction time (regardless of the fact that you can't insta-log when fighting even when blue).

You would basically need to Alt+F4 everytime a gate pops up close to your house.

[Faust]

Just FYI, you cannot instant log for 2 minutes after a player has aggroed on you.

No, only players that are flagged as a criminal or aggressor are unable to instantly log out... when you are attacked you are still freely able to log out instantly. If that is not how it is currently working on UOSA than it's not accurate and needs to be fixed.

Not to mention that you'll probably see a gate pop up a couple of tiles from your house...and by the time you see who comes out of hiding from that gate it will be too late as you'll already be dead. The guy posting above me would pretty much make sure you don't even know what hit you leaving you with 0 reaction time (regardless of the fact that you can't insta-log when fighting even when blue).

You would basically need to Alt+F4 everytime a gate pops up close to your house.

First, a group of people can not pre-cast and sync on a target using this exploit... they must select their target before casting MS/CL which takes 2 seconds to cast on top of the additional amount of time it took setting up the relative target followed by the time it takes to sync on the target.

Plenty of time to log out.

Also, have not tested it... but pretty sure you could easily move to another tile away from the designated relative target tile with in the 2 second time frame of casting the spell? If you can dodge a 1 second damage delay on a bow 6-8+ tiles, pretty sure it would be possible to move 2 tiles with in a 2 second time frame during their casting process forcing them to cancel the spell and designate a new relative target starting the whole process over.

[Pirul]

...and you can hop gates hidden....multiple times...and precasted...and insta-target (cr3w 101)...and you're dead.

Welcome to Razor

[Faust]

Guess we will see how it all pans out.

The issue sounds like the usual UO Second Age dooms day apocalypse of the month to me. Guarentee it will blow over with everyone adapting making this a non-issue in the long run.

Watch and see.

Faust predictions are pretty damn accurate when it comes to this game and UO servers in general.

[Pirul]

I'm not saying we all won't adapt, and continue to exist. I also don't think it has anything to do with other issues like grandfathered items not breaking, silver, etc. It has to be viewed as an independent issue.

The point I've been trying to make is that it CAN be used against people attending and not only against afk macroers as you most vehemently pointed out earlier.

As I've stated a couple of times already: Eventhough it is mechanically accurate, I do belive it can have a farther reaching impact on game play than it is currently believed to have as Razor is a very powerful tool, and most people use only a limited amount of the properties it can provide. I have not explored it sufficiently, but I am scared of what can be accomplished with it by people who are much more versed on Razor than me.

[Faust]

Really was not trying to imply that it could not be used against non-afking macroers. Was just trying to point out that the issue would mainly effect afk macroing when compared to non-afk macroers. Razor should be less of your worries when it comes to this issue. EUO is where you should direct your worries at when it comes to this exploit.

Would still prefer a policy be put in place making this exploit illegal but will persist forward one way or another though.

[Light Shade]

Really was not trying to imply that it could not be used against non-afking macroers. Was just trying to point out that the issue would mainly effect afk macroing when compared to non-afk macroers. Razor should be less of your worries when it comes to this issue. EUO is where you should direct your worries at when it comes to this exploit.

Would still prefer a policy be put in place making this exploit illegal but will persist forward one way or another though.

Faust, I can appreciate what you're trying to do, but this bug does allow people to be effectively Insta-Killed in their own homes. I've tested it. Even with people knowing that its coming, they weren't always able to log before dying.

Besides, you shouldn't have to Exit your client to stay alive in your own home....

[getan]

I think its funny as shit that most people saying "Get over it" already have most of their chars macroed up, and didnt have to deal with this...

[TheManWithNoName]

First, a group of people can not pre-cast and sync on a target using this exploit... they must select their target before casting MS/CL which takes 2 seconds to cast on top of the additional amount of time it took setting up the relative target followed by the time it takes to sync on the target.

all it would take is a stealther, or a char left hidden near your house, to see which tile you are standing on. with a little practice the attackers could easily reset their relative targets based off where you are standing and where their freshly marked kill rune pops up.

Besides, you shouldn't have to Exit your client to stay alive in your own home....

this. pretty. much. sums. it. all. up. right. here.

[Vhyx]

No, only players that are flagged as a criminal or aggressor are unable to instantly log out... when you are attacked you are still freely able to log out instantly. If that is not how it is currently working on UOSA than it's not accurate and needs to be fixed.

I just tested this, and it works as you say it does. Aggressor cannot insta log, but victim can poof right out.

[the bazookas]

I just tested this, and it works as you say it does. Aggressor cannot insta log, but victim can poof right out.

I stand corrected . I guess I just assumed it was that way b/c I'm always the criminal... heh.