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 Post subject: Is this safe from the house looters?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:19 pm 
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My tower is empty at the moment but I'd like to block off the 1 room on the 3rd floor for storage and keep the rest open to the public... would this setup be safe from house looters?

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 Post subject: Re: Is this safe from the house looters?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:32 pm 
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Yes, and everytime you enter use detect hidden on house (will reveal anyone hiding anywhere in a house you own)
Just to be 100% sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this safe from the house looters?
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These are my macros for housing:

(1) Locking Down

Use Skill: Detect Hidden
Wait for Target
Target Self
Say: I wish to lock this down


(2) Releasing

Use Skill: Detect Hidden
Wait for Target
Target Self
Say: I wish to release this

(3) Trash

Use Skill: Detect Hidden
Wait for Target
Target Self
Say: I wish to place a trash barrel



0.0 Detect Hidden still has 100% success vs. GM hiding/stealth in a house in which you are friended/co-own/own.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this safe from the house looters?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:54 pm 
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It is perfectly safe/

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 Post subject: Re: Is this safe from the house looters?
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can only res standing next to tile of ghost, so as long as you do not leave the barrel in such a place that will allow ressing you will be fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this safe from the house looters?
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Mephistopheles wrote:
No, that set up is not safe because it is a public house. Know that any public houses are subject to being "ghosted". This means that a player will use one of their dead characters to bypass your security by simply having them run across it 24/7. Eventually, when you lift the object, the ghost will pass through it and then have made it on the other side, successfully. They can then be resurrected by another player and Mark, Gate, etc to all your loot. Detect Hidden does not reveal a ghost that is not manifested

Actually, it's 100% safe, provided that detecting hidden is used before and after entering. Ghosts can't be ressed across 1 tile, they have to be next to the person that resurrects them, and they can't res with any object blocking their character (ie standing on/under a table).

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and the only measure against this tactic is that non-friended players are automatically removed from your house when they log off.

Also, any charachter logged out in a public house will be able to log back in that house again, they do not get ejected unless the house is private. So always use detect!


For more information about house security and security barriers, please read this thread: Guide: Ultima Online:T2A House Security 101

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i use that set up, with a secured chest on the table, that holds an axe inside of it!

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 Post subject: Re: Is this safe from the house looters?
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If this server works like most runuo shards, you can leave a ghost with a macro running into that trash barrel. When you axe the barrel to get past, the ghost will run by, after you log out, a third party attacks and leads a wandering healer up your stairs, casts invis on him self, and then the healer will ress the ghost on the other side of the table. double security system is where its at. Hopefully this bug has been fixed here, as most runuo servers correct this issue early on.


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Zigo-U- wrote:
If this server works like most runuo shards, you can leave a ghost with a macro running into that trash barrel. When you axe the barrel to get past, the ghost will run by, after you log out, a third party attacks and leads a wandering healer up your stairs, casts invis on him self, and then the healer will ress the ghost on the other side of the table. double security system is where its at. Hopefully this bug has been fixed here, as most runuo servers correct this issue early on.


Wandering healers wont res anyone inside a house.

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You can't res in a house full stop?

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Nah just healers players can res eachother in houses

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