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Re: 92 Magery

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With 92.3 magery at OSI you never fizzled recall. I do it daily and its not because I am opening containers.
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Re: 92 Magery

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You guys just have bad Karma....
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I haven't fizzled recall since about 64 magery

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Re: 92 Magery

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On the 8ths, i want to do some more testing but i have been doing scribing runs of 100 ev's and not seeing 50% averages.

I need to look at it more, but it certainly *feels* like casting and scribing 8ths has a lot more 0-4's to 0-7's compared to 4-0 or even 3-0 success.

Could be the along the same lines of *risk* dice though... for those of you who play that game you never remember going 8-0, but you will tell your grandchildren about the time you lost 10 attackers to a single...

Scribing success should be the same as casting.

Ill try to report numbers on 1000 ev's and see how close we are to 50%

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Re: 92 Magery

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Again, I'm pretty sure it was never 50% but instead 45%.

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Re: 92 Magery

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Decided to test this out, after I fizzled Ressurrection 9 times in a row.

I cast Earthquake in my house 100 times, and saw 55 successes and 45 failures, for a success rate of 55%. Remember, my post said that there should be a 45% chance of success.

So I went to a binomial calculator site (http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~west/applets/ ... ldemo.html) and plugged in this data. Given a 45% success rate, the chance of succeeding at 55 out of 100 trials is 2.84%. So, if the 45% number is correct, I had a pretty rare run. I'll try this again, but I'd suggest other folks do it as well. I made a macro that cast EQ if my mana was above 90, then meditated if it was below 90. That way you succeed the med every time, if you're GM.

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Re: 92 Magery

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Mikel123 wrote:So I went to a binomial calculator site (http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~west/applets/ ... ldemo.html) and plugged in this data. Given a 45% success rate, the chance of succeeding at 55 out of 100 trials is 2.84%. So, if the 45% number is correct, I had a pretty rare run.
This is kind of a statistical misinterpretation. The chance of succeeding exactly 55 is rare on a 50/50 here but the change of succeeding 55% or more times is 18%, the chance of succeeding more than 50 times is 46%

If the intent was to succeed exactly 55 times, your chance would be about 3%, but that's a very specific case.

Thanks for doing this test, I'd say that your results verify that this mechanic is correct, 50% chance of 8th at GM magery.
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Re: 92 Magery

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Sorry, I should have been clearer, I plugged in the chance to hit AT LEAST 55 out of 100. The chance of hitting EXACTLY 55 is 1.08%. The chance of hitting AT LEAST 55 is 2.84%.

I'm sure there's a better test I could run (i.e. What is the chance that 55/100 is due to chance, given an expectation of 45?) but I haven't found a calculator online yet for that.

I'll probably test this a couple more times, but yeah - I'm reasonably satisfied right now.

Again, I think it should be 45% success rate at GM Magery (and that's what I stat-tested against. Assuming 50% expectation, if that's what is coded in, the probability of hitting 55 or more out of 100 is over 18%). My rationale for 45% is earlier in this thread, but in any case it's not a big deal. It would take thousands of trials to really see in practice if we're at 45% or 50%. And really, the only major difference is a few more or less lost reagents in fizzles. Not like people are PvPing too much with level 8 spells where success rate is crucial...

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