chumbucket wrote:I'm trying to make a policy of not responding to rude posts about this especially ones with obvious chips on their shoulder, but I'm gonna respond to this anyways.
1. Town add-ons are not only given to RP guilds here.
2. I'm not aiming to do the usual town add-on thing, nor to achieve the goals of the town add on program (if there are even explicit goals laid out by staff). I'm asking for it in this manner because it seemed the best fit for the idea even if it isn't a perfect fit.
3. I simply disagree about the long term benefit to the shard. [cA] is a good guild for UOSA, and we think this would help us and the shard in ways that are not as obvious as, say, mYm private PvP arena but help nonetheless.
4. I, more and more, think this would be a good idea for a general gold sink. I simply can't see that you've made a point against that by alluding to the fact that there is a silver system set up to encourage people to attend events.
Ok, let me say I did not intend the tone of my post as rude, and I definetly don't have a chip on my shoulder, since I have never been griefed by you. Having said that, and since you asked for the reasons why people had voted no, here's my reasoning to your reply:
1.- I know, and I have never said that I agree with the policy of how town add-ons have been granted, and to whom. This is a topic for another thread, and not one discussing add-ons for one specific guild.
2.- Fair enough, but I still think it is arbitrary to be able to grant an "add-on" to a person in a discretionary manner, specially one that is wearable. I too am a GM, and my guild is not so innactive, but nonetheless, I would not ask for this out of principle. But since you asked for it in this manner (via an open forum asking for opinions) I provided my point of view.
3.- I do agree cA is an intrical part of UOSA, and I hope it stays that way. Just as we hope C^V, NEW, and other guilds continue to be a contributing factor for UOSA's growth. I have not seen a cA sponsored event (other than Matrons tamed fights, which I don't think they took off) and thus I can not see clearly how much it would benefit UOSA as a whole as opposed to just cA, as the only clear example given is to motivate players of a well established guild, with little or no apparent rotation. Again, mYm's private PvP arena, how it was granted, and why it's still there is subject to another discussion (as is K^A town, TB, etc.).
4.- My point was missed completely, as it was not an endorsement of events, as much as the ability for anyone to go out, farm liches, buy silver and turn it in for items. And when I said:
Pirul wrote:The gold sink idea makes much more sense, and would be willing to consider something like that
I actually was taking your side on the argument. Further clarifying my disclaimer that it would be like adding items to the silver turn-in system, I just think it should not be strictly limited to Guild Masters, as the unguilded or unfavored population will be inclined to resign their current guilds, and make their own private guild to be able to access these add-ons, because, being frank, half a mill is not THAT hard to save. The way it is instrumented would have to be well thought out.