Proposed Rules Changes to AFK Macroing

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:02 pm

Proposed Rules Changes to AFK Macroing

There has been a lot of debate regarding AFK macros, creating wealth, and transferring wealth going on lately. I recently saw a proposed rule that I thought was quite simple and clear. It seemed to address all the issues that people had regarding this debate and i'd simply like to put that rule and some variations up for a poll.

For details and exceptions to proposed rules, please click on the [+] following the Proposed rules for more information.

Keep in mind: This is for AFK or Unattended Macroing ONLY.

Proposals:

Proposed Rule Addition #1:[+]

Proposed Rule Addition #2:[+]

Proposed Rule Addition #3:[+]

Proposed Rule Addition #4:[+]

Proposed Rule Addition #5:[+]

As always, constructive comments are welcomed.

-L/S

Pirul · Post by **Pirul** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:06 pm

What about restocking from banks?

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:11 pm

Pirul wrote:What about restocking from banks?

I would, personally, categorize that under "Any Transfer of Items" or however I worded it.

Keep in mind, this is while AFK only and is a proposal that may need to be edited and adjusted.

Pirul · Post by **Pirul** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:13 pm

I don't agree, that would hose new players working magery.

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:14 pm

Pirul wrote:I don't agree, that would hose new players working magery.

There are several options, some do not include transfer of items at all.

mrbojangles · Post by **mrbojangles** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:35 pm

I voted for #7, no changes needed. I do not see any reason why policy should encourage one playstyle over the other. If i want to spend my time developing uber efficient hands-free macros, then that's my perogative. If I want to spend my time manually creating and selling items, then let the richer experience be my reward.

AFK resource gathering is illegal, that is the only policy needed.

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:38 pm

mrbojangles wrote:I voted for #7, no changes needed. I do not see any reason why policy should encourage one playstyle over the other. If i want to spend my time developing uber efficient hands-free macros, then that's my perogative. If I want to spend my time manually creating and selling items, then let the richer experience be my reward.

AFK resource gathering is illegal, that is the only policy needed.

In response, I would pose this question:

Can not actually playing the game even be a playstyle?

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:42 pm

I'd be for:

"There shall be no AFK Macroing that involves ANY type of Movement unless ALL AFK actions are done within a Character's Home."

But there's no option for that.

There's no transfer except in house, and no movement and transfer except in house... but there's no option for just no movement except in house.

Limiting transfer is too tough on new players working magery which has already been pointed out.

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:48 pm

Stalker wrote:I'd be for:

"There shall be no AFK Macroing that involves ANY type of Movement unless ALL AFK actions are done within a Character's Home."

But there's no option for that.

There's no transfer except in house, and no movement and transfer except in house... but there's no option for just no movement except in house.

Limiting transfer is too tough on new players working magery which has already been pointed out.

Would you like to see Bank Boxes as an exemption to the rules, so long as movement does not occur?

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:55 pm

That's one way of going with it. I think reg buying afk in Del might still be possible with that option though, which I'm not a fan of. But that's still alot better than the current rules IMO.

GuardianKnight · Post by **GuardianKnight** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:00 pm

People don't tend to go to the polls to vote against their own personal interests. Best way to make enemies is to try and change something. Voted on #1. Have hated all afk macroing ever since it made the game less UO and more SOLO.

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:02 pm

Stalker wrote:That's one way of going with it. I think reg buying afk in Del might still be possible with that option though, which I'm not a fan of. But that's still alot better than the current rules IMO.

I have added on to the exemptions of the Items/Resources rules to include this:

Working from a Bank Box, so long as NO movement is occuring and no gathering or acquiring of items/resources outside of the character and his/her bankbox is occuring. This will allow new players to work Magery, etc...

Please re-vote if you need to and sorry for the inconvenience. I thought this a necessary change.

mrbojangles · Post by **mrbojangles** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:05 pm

Light Shade wrote: In response, I would pose this question:

Can not actually playing the game even be a playstyle?

I dunno, it seems to be your playstyle?

But seriously, I do think it is a totally legitimate playstyle. And, I think having rules full of exceptions, and clauses is a bad idea. What makes this shard and game great is it's laissez-faire approach to rules and gameplay. If it's not game-breaking leave it alone, enough said.

GuardianKnight · Post by **GuardianKnight** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:12 pm

The same problem with the real world is the sorta same issue with this game. Giving people the ability to do everything electronically and alone. It takes away the social aspect of the game. I started doing the same thing after a while. I don't even like talking to people in the actual game. I could go macro and use irc. Why even play the game? Just hang out in irc.

Post by **Light Shade** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:17 pm

mrbojangles wrote:
Light Shade wrote: In response, I would pose this question:

Can not actually playing the game even be a playstyle?
I dunno, it seems to be your playstyle?

But seriously, I do think it is a totally legitimate playstyle. And, I think having rules full of exceptions, and clauses is a bad idea. What makes this shard and game great is it's laissez-faire approach to rules and gameplay. If it's not game-breaking leave it alone, enough said.

I'm all for a "hands off" approach towards players actually playing the game, but I do not feel the same way for unattended gameplay...which is probably pretty obvious at this point.

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