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princesspeach wrote:
Homie wrote:dex is no skill - always solo acteur

and the pvp here isn't as bad as some people claim it to be
Wrong. Sometimes being a true dexxer requires much more skill than a mage if you use a ton of macros and gadgets. I am not talking about a dexxer who just attacks and runs around, I am talking about the clever never say die type of fighter that will use any means necessary to win.
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I think people who don't like long drawn out fights really don't like pvp, in my opinion. Quick wins every match means that something is overpowered. Sometimes its quick othertimes it's not. It's like chess. One simple mistake and it's curtains. If you and your opponent both know what you are doing, of course its going to take forever.
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Homie wrote:
princesspeach wrote:
Homie wrote:dex is no skill - always solo acteur

and the pvp here isn't as bad as some people claim it to be
Wrong. Sometimes being a true dexxer requires much more skill than a mage if you use a ton of macros and gadgets. I am not talking about a dexxer who just attacks and runs around, I am talking about the clever never say die type of fighter that will use any means necessary to win.
http://my.uosecondage.com/player.aspx?id=59781
Alright, elaborate then genius. Back up what you say.
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princesspeach wrote: Alright, elaborate then genius. Back up what you say.
i just wrote the name of my main pvp char (DEX IS NO SKILL) and that the pvp isnt that bad as some people are saying - no need to back up anything!

any questions? :lol:

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lol what the hell then why do you have your name dex is no skill
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Homie wrote:
princesspeach wrote:
Homie wrote:dex is no skill - always solo acteur

and the pvp here isn't as bad as some people claim it to be
Wrong. Sometimes being a true dexxer requires much more skill than a mage if you use a ton of macros and gadgets. I am not talking about a dexxer who just attacks and runs around, I am talking about the clever never say die type of fighter that will use any means necessary to win.
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By the looks of your tourney rankings, its not your dexxer that lacking skill...

There is *some* skill involved with playing a dexxer, it's not simply double-click and auto-follow; knowing when to pop which pots and when, bandage timers (especially when poisoned), even using magery cures/heals in the mix, but its no where near the skill required for tank mage pvp.
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I disagree. There is a level of comfort you feel with being a mage. You can spam mini-heal, gheal, poison and weaken at ease, paralyze, throw devastating combos. And you don't have to be any close to the person you can just run around in patterns and just cast and hit last target. I mean I guess it can go both ways.. But you get a mage do a combo hally hit on you that hurts a ton and that is usually when a dexxer drops within the next ten seconds.

But I also think if you play a dexxer right it can still possess a tremendous amount of more skill. First off having macros for different weapon equips when a certain weapon is not working, yes the whole bandage timer thing also, jewelry and wands and staffs also come into play, trapped pouches and knowing which pot to drink next and remembering to do things like re apply poison and at the same time always being focused on your health because at any moment a combo can devestate you even if you got gm resist, and on top of everything else you have to stay literally on top of the person and focus on intercepting any patterns that you may pick up on as they run around, half the time when I pvp I only land as many hits as I do because I anticipate their next move which is probably the hardest thing to do because you have to do everything else all at the same time, and to know you most likely cannot recall with ease or get out if you need to or start to get ganked. I have 18 magery so if I got 2-3 people coming at me I have no choice but to fight and do some guerilla tactics thing or just run for my life or something. A mage can easily just recall out to safety , med and heal , and come right back ready for more. And there are many more tricks and things that I'm not going to mention that adds to it all.
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hiicha wrote: By the looks of your tourney rankings, its not your dexxer that lacking skill...
Revoke cannot even be seen at the tourney ranks...

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princesspeach wrote:
Homie wrote:dex is no skill - always solo acteur

and the pvp here isn't as bad as some people claim it to be
Wrong. Sometimes being a true dexxer requires much more skill than a mage if you use a ton of macros and gadgets. I am not talking about a dexxer who just attacks and runs around, I am talking about the clever never say die type of fighter that will use any means necessary to win.
You're so wrong its unreal...i've played both. I use every item possible on my dexxer and use a LOT of hotkeys/macros and absolutely destroy with him. On my mage, however, it takes a lot more mental work to know how to time swings/combos, know what to cast and when, timing spells, etc. Anyone who thinks its all about para spamming is delusional...when you see mages trying to pull that off you know one thing..they suck.
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KydVicious wrote:PvP rolecall, to do that there would have to be some PvP going on in the first place. PvP on this shard is for lack of a better word....pathetic.

Mage vs. Mage is an exercise in futility or whoever runs out of regs first. Mage vs. "fully equipped" dexer is a matter of attrition as to how many boom pouches can the guy have left before my para/explode combo can actually work this time...lame. Mage vs. dexer who isn't outfitted correctly is just plain sad...whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff, whiff, para/explode/e-bolt/hally whack, wash, rinse, repeat, wow that was exciting now you can loot that GM crap he's toting and possibly some recall regs.....hooray.

Duels, wow they can go on and on and on and on.....getting the picture here?

I guess the debate as far as accuracy could go on as long as some of the duels on this shard so I won't get into that.

Wrestling is uber here for some reason I don't think a dexer has actually landed a meaningful hit on my mage yet, even if he did I can just mini-heal until I can land a couple spells to knock his dex down enough so that the 2 second timer becomes very apparent to him, kite him a little so his timer just starts to reset while mine is ready and I arm hally then it's a matter of can he heal with bandages in time or is he going to run and make the fight last until the server goes down, thank goodness for GE potions.

PvP rolecall, well I guess we'll have to wait until some real PvP starts up here.
theres plenty of pvp on this shard. the only thing wrong with pvp is the 1v1 duels, its kinda boring. but field pvp is out there if you go look around. and there is some decent competition on the field.
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Clyde- wrote:
princesspeach wrote:
Homie wrote:dex is no skill - always solo acteur

and the pvp here isn't as bad as some people claim it to be
Wrong. Sometimes being a true dexxer requires much more skill than a mage if you use a ton of macros and gadgets. I am not talking about a dexxer who just attacks and runs around, I am talking about the clever never say die type of fighter that will use any means necessary to win.
You're so wrong its unreal...i've played both. I use every item possible on my dexxer and use a LOT of hotkeys/macros and absolutely destroy with him. On my mage, however, it takes a lot more mental work to know how to time swings/combos, know what to cast and when, timing spells, etc. Anyone who thinks its all about para spamming is delusional...when you see mages trying to pull that off you know one thing..they suck.
hmm ok maybe I am wrong then it must be different here, I do notice a ton of hally mages here so maybe I am wrong. On hybrid they do not have the instant hit or whatever it is, most mages use explosion pots and the stun move as part of their combo, and have alchemy to add damage to pots, ya its really dumb. But on hybrid there are a ton of dexxers and even more u can do but yea definitely different here, im making a pk char named Akinom Bloodlust so im interested to find out about the instant hit thing.
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Homie wrote:
hiicha wrote: By the looks of your tourney rankings, its not your dexxer that lacking skill...
Revoke cannot even be seen at the tourney ranks...
The only events that occur during my playtime are CTF, DD and LMS. I don't play in the regular 1v1 tourneys because they're swayed more for tank mage pvp, but I do play the 1v1 anything goes matches. Maybe it doesn't show because my char is private?
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all good hiicha

you're an expierenced pvper and i dont want to say anything else

I fought you with revoke at least one time several months ago and i think thats simply too long ago so we need to repeat this :D

My main problem with pvp here is that i will only get pvp during humanly times at weekends or at tourneys because for off peak players (or maybe just for me) from europe playing at the premium times means that they dont need any sleep :lol:

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I've been playing this shard for a few weeks and I finally have a 6x tank with upper 90s resist ready to roll. Working on a dexxer now. I spent time in some of the best guilds on GL back in the day, but I haven't played in years and the rust shows. Currently looking for PvP buddies or a guild that focuses on mage pvp before anything else. I could also use a sparring buddy to get back into the swing of things so I don't completely embarrass myself.

ICQ is 18221229. Name is the same as my forum name.

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