Well, thx for the reply I guess, but I thought I made it rather clear that I was talking about griefing just for the hell of it. Of course there are those rare cases where someone has huge amounts of reags, ingots, etc. on him, but then I wouldn't necessarily consider that griefing. It's a legitimate way to acquire something you want more quickly than you could otherwise. A bit of an 'aggressive' approach maybe, but perfectly reasonable. Same goes for the mare.Hicha wrote:Here's a quick breakdown on just some of the ways:Nefarity wrote:It is not my intention to derail this thread nor do I have a problem with griefers, but I have a question.
In all my experience with UO and dozens of other games, I could never fathom the concept of griefing. What I can remotely understand is that people, especially newer players, can be tempted to kill someone who's macroing or some such because the opportunity presents itself.
But why do people go to extremes to kill someone who is AFK? O.O
Money? There are quicker & better ways. Loot? Basically comes down to money again. Challenge? There is none. Boredom? Well, do you go out on the street and hit an old lady in the face when you're bored? Maybe not the best comparison, but you get the gist of it.
Why would you go out of your way trying to screw with someone unless you hold a grudge against him or something? I just don't get it.
1. People who afk with a mass amount of resources (ingots, regs) are a valid income source. It takes anywhere from 20 secs to 2 minutes to town PK someone depending on environment (NPCs nearby, players spamming guards, etc.) If I took a minute to kill you to loot 2k of flamestrike regs, I just made a quick ~12k profit.
2. People who spam guards are just asking to be griefed anyway; to be proven it doesn't do anything to prevent death.
3. People afk on nightmares = enough said. Easy and cheap way to get a new mare for one of your toons.
Your second point hit the nerve though and piques my curiosity. Why do you figure someone is asking to be proven wrong when he is taking steps to avoid being griefed? The existence of people like you is what makes him spam 'guards' in the first place. Does it invoke a feeling of pride in you when you prove that you can outsmart a predictable system of town guards and NPC behavior?
While I realize that my tone might come across as kinda hostile, I assure you that it is not. I'm simply interested in something I don't understand.