UO Second Age

I hope there is little or no intervention.....the game is unique for its unusual quirks and odd idiosyncracies and, with the stuck options in reserve if necessary, all the oddities of this nature enrich the game and serve to force the players to use wit and creativity to overcome another's wit and creativity and find a solution to a specific or bizarre problem.

Other games are "fixed" almost literally to their deaths, homogenized and sanitized and devoid of life due to everything being "adjusted", "massaged", "tweaked", "automated" etc. Some of the most brilliant, weird and annoying ideas in gaming history came from this game before the life was sucked out of it by making the "rules" preclude anything not prescribed "by the book". You'll notice that websites about the game that contain history and screenshots usually focus on the days before the game was beaten to death in this way, and the most famous screenshots are almost always of things like the one that starts this thread.

UO always was the Wild West of online games, and T2A was always the best version of it....I hope that, to the extent possible, it is kept that way.

Halogen wrote:I hope there is little or no intervention.....the game is unique for its unusual quirks and odd idiosyncracies and, with the stuck options in reserve if necessary, all the oddities of this nature enrich the game and serve to force the players to use wit and creativity to overcome another's wit and creativity and find a solution to a specific or bizarre problem.

Other games are "fixed" almost literally to their deaths, homogenized and sanitized and devoid of life due to everything being "adjusted", "massaged", "tweaked", "automated" etc. Some of the most brilliant, weird and annoying ideas in gaming history came from this game before the life was sucked out of it by making the "rules" preclude anything not prescribed "by the book". You'll notice that websites about the game that contain history and screenshots usually focus on the days before the game was beaten to death in this way, and the most famous screenshots are almost always of things like the one that starts this thread.

UO always was the Wild West of online games, and T2A was always the best version of it....I hope that, to the extent possible, it is kept that way.

^^ I totally agree... well said... I would lead the animals out of town and hopefully he will follow.. then kill all. At least thats what would happen to me when I was there for taming..

Ouch, that is tough.

I know GMs will not allow using mass pets in town to follow grief people. I know you cannot block town with mass pets as well. I think both of those should and do receive attention from the GMs

after that... then you either have the beauty or the ugliness of a sandbox mmorpg. all depends on your point of view.

Taming, there are plenty of other places to go tame. They may not be as easy but it is not like this guy is stopping you from gaining skill or wealth. He is just making it more dificult.

Any difference than a Red making constant rounds for miners? Part of the game eh?

I agree with everyone.
It's a sandbox, and shouldn't be interfered with unless the problem is extreme.

Something like the Original Post, would not be a situation in which we would interfere.

Haha this thread is hilarious, the screenshot makes me laugh. Can we please put an end to this injustice!?!? lmao

If you sucessfully tame an animal and neglect to feed it, shouldn't it go wild if your spamming "All Follow ME" for hours on end?

I clearly remember back in the day NEVER taking more than 3 dragons out at a time, because they were too hard to control.

How can players spam "All Follow Me" and without feeding any of their 60+ pets, none of them lose loyalty and go wild?

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My main issue is that I am trying to raise taming on this character, and the only place where there seems to be any Bulls at all is around Delucia.....and because of 1 person who is macroing AFK, I can't tame any Bulls.....

If the guy macroing would release his tames, then I could at least kill them myself and grab anything that spawns.....but the guards protect him, and his tames, and I am powerless to do anything about the situation. Makes me feel like I am in Trammel all over again....

How about making it to where you can only report a murder if its within 10 minutes of you being slain?

That way I can kill people who are macroing Unattended, and they can't report me for murder unless they notice within 10 minutes. At least that way, there could be some player Justice......

In my opinion Macroing has ruined UO, If its something that we can't get away from, how about banning unattended macroing inside Town?

That way most of it will take place in the privacy of your home!!!

sirrayiv wrote:If you sucessfully tame an animal and neglect to feed it, shouldn't it go wild if your spamming "All Follow ME" for hours on end?

I clearly remember back in the day NEVER taking more than 3 dragons out at a time, because they were too hard to control.

How can players spam "All Follow Me" and without feeding any of their 60+ pets, none of them lose loyalty and go wild?

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My main issue is that I am trying to raise taming on this character, and the only place where there seems to be any Bulls at all is around Delucia.....and because of 1 person who is macroing AFK, I can't tame any Bulls.....

If the guy macroing would release his tames, then I could at least kill them myself and grab anything that spawns.....but the guards protect him, and his tames, and I am powerless to do anything about the situation. Makes me feel like I am in Trammel all over again....

How about making it to where you can only report a murder if its within 10 minutes of you being slain?

That way I can kill people who are macroing Unattended, and they can't report me for murder unless they notice within 10 minutes. At least that way, there could be some player Justice......

In my opinion Macroing has ruined UO, If its something that we can't get away from, how about banning unattended macroing inside Town?

That way most of it will take place in the privacy of your home!!!

Bulls spawn other places too mane. Even in delucia, go outside. Jhelom also.

Or take your little ass and get some dp, poison newbie dagger and smack this fool. If you fail, wait 2 mins and repeat son.

On Napa Valley and Pacific back in 1999 - The Eastern part of trinsic had nothing but Bulls everywhere....also outside of the town wall of Northern Trinsic, there were a bunch that spawned......of course the Jhelom area had a bunch as well......

so far on this shard, I have only found 2 bulls in Jhelom at any given time, ZERO bulls in Trinsic.....and Delucia has several, however as you can see from my opening pic, they might as well be Cows....because somebody has already tamed them, and hasn't released them, and there is nothing I can do about it, unless I wanna take the risk of getting guard wacked.

I have lured orcs into town, and would kill the guy myself, but don't want murder counts on my character.....besides he is there every day, sometimes there are several people doing it.

All Follow Me to Dual Balrons...Go my Barnyard Army defeat Malice!!!!

If a tamer wants to keep his spawn regenerating he needs to kill them...dump them at Opheds or something through a gate.

You could entice them through a Gate if you aren't that guy, but that's alot of work.

I thought it was convenient wool myself.

sirrayiv wrote:On Napa Valley and Pacific back in 1999 - The Eastern part of trinsic had nothing but Bulls everywhere....also outside of the town wall of Northern Trinsic, there were a bunch that spawned......of course the Jhelom area had a bunch as well......

so far on this shard, I have only found 2 bulls in Jhelom at any given time, ZERO bulls in Trinsic.....

Hart Island in Trinsic has the incorrect spawn, it spawns a ton of undead for some reason instead of cows and bulls and harts/great harts.

In other news, that looks like a P.I.T.A. but I don't think an admin should get involved

sirrayiv wrote:If you sucessfully tame an animal and neglect to feed it, shouldn't it go wild if your spamming "All Follow ME" for hours on end?

I clearly remember back in the day NEVER taking more than 3 dragons out at a time, because they were too hard to control.

How can players spam "All Follow Me" and without feeding any of their 60+ pets, none of them lose loyalty and go wild?

You misunderstand how taming and loyalty works.

Animals that are freshly tamed typically have a low loyalty level. Loyalty level is like a % modifier against your chance of succeeding a command.

Food is one way to instantly get pet loyalty to the highest level (Wonderfully Happy). However, succeeding commands also raises the loyalty. So for a pet with, say, a 99% chance of succeeding a command, even if they fail a couple in a row, which is rare, they'll still likely succeed the next few and get their loyalty back up to Wondefully Happy.

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Derrick wrote:There is precedence for us taking action when the town of Britain is virtually shut down by a single player; we try our best to never interfere in game, but there are some actions that are just over the top, such as making a animal wall surrounding Sweet Dreams Inn.

Feel free to discuss whether or not we should get involved in actions like that, but I do feel it makes a lot of sense to minimally control animals in some areas, or at least that area.

Definitely get involved, doing so is accurate. Just because you can't replicate the hardware of OSI 10 years ago and this doesn't affect us here (or at least as much), tons of animals in an area caused immense game-ending lag and GM's would clean out the area. I recall that interference of that type was sort of prohibited and action was always taken when it interfered with a player's gameplay. A while back Sigfried filling up Brit bank roof with animals on every tile, for example, would have been taken care of by the GM's rather than players.

Huge packs of animals don't really create a lot of lag on our server, we've got less people connected than OSI servers, almost everyone has better hardware and computer connections too.

I take the stance too of as little interference as possible. In almost ANY situation. A bunch of tamed animals isn't going to cause that many problems, unless as we've mentioned before it's blocked where new players spawn in or whatever.

*polite golf clap @ staff for their Outstanding Judgement*

You really don't even need to tame bulls to get to GM. The only time I tamed them myself was if I just happened to run across one. It was easy enough to get GM without them

kill them all, thats alot of leather, couldnt be any easier the guy had all them come to you.