Handouts

[archaicsubrosa77]

A good way to get the things you want is to make a bowcrating lumberjack right off.
"Do it! Zog Heil!" or something...
Trust me, you can trust me, don't you trust me, why don't you trust me, Truuuust Meee-hee-hee-ha-heee-heee

Sorry I had a moment...

[SJane3384]

I'm not quite a noob
But I'm Not Quite a non noob
at the same time

..........

I will be a 7 gm Tank Mage soon

You have an almost 7x GM char? That doesn't make you an almost noob. That makes you an established player. Especially because Magery is a pretty expensive skill to GM.
I've been here since August, and over three chars only have 8x GM. By your calculations, I should be an almost noob too. More noobish, in fact, than yourself. Know what that means?


HAI GUYS, I R NEW, GLD PLS. I deserve it more than Jyrki, cause I'm newer than him!!!

[Murugan]

*sigh*

Sadly it is shit like this that keeps this shard from growing. Honestly, the only thing being in the top 10 UO gaming sites does is grab peoples attention to check us out. I know for a fact that before anyone jumps on a game they check out the forums. It will tell you everything about the shard.

The 400+ users online at any given time with a shard that allows 3 accounts is no 400 people. But the amount of conversation (which this site has TONS of) reflects how the people are in the game, how often they post (almost all pages show each topic is posted / read or bumped daily) and what the economy is like. (trading resources, housing etc.)

Point to all this is 95% of this shard is established, and even if you "looted" them tomorrow would claim they have gold, money is not an object etc. etc. This shard does NOT have a good resource trading system because EVERYONE has a crafter / Mule in each skill. So the old days of "mining and cutting trees" for gold is not a good one. When I started out in 2008 there was a guy who had a vendor next to the moonglow cotton fields and placed "free" or VERY cheap starter stuff. You simply do not see this much any more.

UO used to be a game where people mined and did everything in there power to get that small house FAST, but to do that took weeks. This shard will grief anyone who try's to mine outside of town, chop trees or collect small loot in low level dungeons. Although this is part of the game, and always has been, no one wants to put forth such an effort into that task with a shard full of AS$holes.

Perhaps when people can come and read posts that don't go so far off topic, trash everyone who writes one, and stops "knowing it all" we will further expand our game. I for one would love to come back and play with a bunch of new faces, and guilds. But its been a year since I really actively played, and nothing changes. Its the same whiny little girls playing each day.

VOTING is great, but Lets start being a little more friendly to young / new players.

A Better way to handle this situation could have been:
You probably wont find anyone on this shard to just "hand you" gold, houses or resources, but Im in need of ingots, and if you want a good start Ill buy 2000 off you for 8 gold each, to give you that little boost!, -or- Its pretty profitable and easy to Mine (here) or gain fishing and sell t-maps etc.

Honestly, to a new player even a small 5K gift goes a LONG way. This shard is full of filthy rich, whiny, hording morons who can't do anything but grief in-game and out each day! It is why MANY, MANY people have left, and perhaps keep checking back to see if anything good has changed.

With all this said, No need to flame me because of my post, I didn't call anyone out personally and if you take offence to this then your one of the problem people. If you agree with this, or don't find it offending, then you can remember the days when you too started out, and asked for a hand-out or gold, or some training help.

Back to the original post, here is a helpful PLAYER guide to this shard:
http://forum.uosecondage.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=483

Here is the older but more useful stratics page that can help you a LOT with questions or skills from this era:
http://web.archive.org/web/199812120219 ... atics.com/

And lastly, I wont give you a house, even a small one. But shoot me a PM with what you might need to get a better push start in the game and Ill see what I can do!

Don't bother arguing with any of these morons, because NO ONE backs down on this shard / forums so its just a pissing contest. If people really wanted to see the shard grow and get better PVP and guild wars going strong they would understand and agree that newbies ARE the future of ANY shard.

PM Me

[Murugan]

Lets not forget Chumbucket who did nothing but BEG and steal yet he made it to the hall of fame on this shard. So you might not like beggers, but then move on, and off the post. Why does everyone think that there 2 cents count on EVERY post.

"Selling Keep"
And 90% who look at it will already have a keep or not even be in the market for one. Thats fine, but don't post, YOUR KEEP SUCKS, YOULL NEVER SELL IT, etc etc etc. If you don't like the price, move on, or say "it might be a little over priced at that" Helpful hints or conversation is just that HELPFUL, ranks, raves and stupid posts do nothing but start fights, lower shard moral, and make this shard look immature and slow!

[-=God=-]

I tell you all what, feeding this kids habit for wanting stuff is just going to make him keep doing what hes doing... but all in all this is the most idiotic post ever by probly the worst player ever.

[Hans]

Half the fun of UO (in my opinion), is the initial struggle with your newb char.. Scrounging enough gold to pay for necessary supplies. Finding the 'free' way to get most necessities (bandages, for example).
Pick up a trade to sell items to NPCs is a good way to get started -- help fund your training until you can PvM something that gives a fair return for your time.

Without the struggle, you will soon be bored. It's not the destination, it's the journey, blah blah, etc, etc.

[SJane3384]

Point to all this is 95% of this shard is established, and even if you "looted" them tomorrow would claim they have gold, money is not an object etc. etc. This shard does NOT have a good resource trading system because EVERYONE has a crafter / Mule in each skill. So the old days of "mining and cutting trees" for gold is not a good one. When I started out in 2008 there was a guy who had a vendor next to the moonglow cotton fields and placed "free" or VERY cheap starter stuff. You simply do not see this much any more.

UO used to be a game where people mined and did everything in there power to get that small house FAST, but to do that took weeks. This shard will grief anyone who try's to mine outside of town, chop trees or collect small loot in low level dungeons. Although this is part of the game, and always has been, no one wants to put forth such an effort into that task with a shard full of AS$holes.

Not true. As I stated before, my chars are ALL less developed than his, and yet, I give out 1-2k a week to a new player. If I got looted (like massively looted, not just an object or bit of gold), I'd be pretty effing upset, and might even stop playing for awhile. I know several other people like this as well. So, it's not like we're all "old money". Also, in all the time I've spent out mining (the way that I made all my money) I've been PK'd ONCE. That means one (1) time. Total.

Perhaps when people can come and read posts that don't go so far off topic, trash everyone who writes one, and stops "knowing it all" we will further expand our game. I for one would love to come back and play with a bunch of new faces, and guilds. But its been a year since I really actively played, and nothing changes. Its the same whiny little girls playing each day.

If you feel this way, than why are you still here? Also, don't be sexist. It makes you sound like "a whiny little girl" yourself.

A Better way to handle this situation could have been:
You probably wont find anyone on this shard to just "hand you" gold, houses or resources, but Im in need of ingots, and if you want a good start Ill buy 2000 off you for 8 gold each, to give you that little boost!, -or- Its pretty profitable and easy to Mine (here) or gain fishing and sell t-maps etc.

Scroll up, read archaicsubrosa77's post. Then go back and read Tabius's on the page before. Both of them suggested things to help a new player (get someone to co-own you, make a lumberjack). Also, if the OP had bothered to check, there are a MILLION threads on how to get started. He didn't. Instead, he came in and asked to be "set for life", as it were.

Think about this for a second. Say someone old school....I dunno, Blackfoot or someone, decided "Ok, I've been thinking about quitting for awhile. Here, new guy, have all my stuff without working your char at all!". What reason, then, would this guy have to stay long term? He's already got a castle, a bazillion rares, more gold than he knows what to do with. What does he have to work towards? Cripes, he doesn't even have a char to really build, cause he's already almost 7x GM.

If he had simply come in and said, "Hey guys, I'm new and need a little help getting started. Any tips or donations would be greatly appreciated." I think that most people would've responded differently. He probably would've made out with several thousand gold and equipment too. When I started, without even asking, I was given several thousand gold and a place to train. People are generally helpful, I just think they're also generally wary of new players expecting to come in and be set up with minimal effort of their own.

Honestly, to a new player even a small 5K gift goes a LONG way. This shard is full of filthy rich, whiny, hording morons who can't do anything but grief in-game and out each day! It is why MANY, MANY people have left, and perhaps keep checking back to see if anything good has changed.

Again, if you hate everyone, why are you still here?

Don't bother arguing with any of these morons, because NO ONE backs down on this shard / forums so its just a pissing contest. If people really wanted to see the shard grow and get better PVP and guild wars going strong they would understand and agree that newbies ARE the future of ANY shard.

One last time: If you hate everyone, why are you still here?

And one last time: No one here is against new players. They're against new players who want everything handed to them (and if they get it, will probably just quit in a few months anyway).

[Jyrki]

Just to clear things up i will be here long term thank you .

[Downs]

HAI GUYS, I R NEW, GLD PLS. I deserve it more than Jyrki, cause I'm newer than him!!!

Do you have a permit to use I R NEW, GLD PLS?

cA requires a one time 10k fee to use chum's patented phrase

[Murugan]

I'm not here anymore, I have characters, and wealth still on this shard, but no longer actively log in. Sure many will say "then why you check the forums" and my answer to that is because I still have a vested interest in this shard. But at this current time don't wish to play.

In anwser to some other posts, I understand that a FEW people made some suggestions, but the entire first page is ranting about how "I hate beggers" and blasting the general conception of even asking for a handout.

I do not hate everyone, but from experiance, I have never ONCE scammed a single person into friending me to there house to loot them, selling fake spellbooks, fake black dye tubs, etc etc. Every single trade has been in the buyers favor, and yet when I went to sell my keep with everything inside, worth well over the asking price, I got ram-rodded as a scammer by people who never even delt with me before. ITs that bull-shit that pisses me off. And it is the same shit when people jump into a post and decide to blast someone for no reason!

Son / Felix CLAIMS to have been scammed, but he's full of shit, and truth is he was getting 150 - 175K worth of items for 130K and claims that because the items were never arms lored, which I never claimed to do, nor have I claimed to state they were new, he felt ripped off. Point is, It still was no scam.

[Murugan]

You have an almost 7x GM char? That doesn't make you an almost noob. That makes you an established player. Especially because Magery is a pretty expensive skill to GM.
I've been here since August, and over three chars only have 8x GM. By your calculations, I should be an almost noob too. More noobish, in fact, than yourself. Know what that means?

I do not understand how you can be here for half a year and not have a gm mage yet. either you log on once a week, or your trying to gain skills in the field. Either way its fine.

Giving 1-2K per week to a new player does not make you a better player than anyone, and is quite irrelavent to this topic. If you donate that much, then why wouldn't you give this guy the 2K this week?

And lastly, your not classified as a Noob, or established player by the skill of your character. There are plenty of 7x GM NOOBS, and there are just as many 3x Established players. The term NOOB, which UO coined popular, refers to your ability to play. Your personal skill level at each task, be it crafting, theiving or pvp / pvm. I'm no Noob at fishing, yet I do it just fine without a 7x char.

[moomtazz]

There are plenty of ways for a new player to make money, and most of them are listed in the guides on this forum. I started December 19th, walked a toon to Delucia, farmed wool, made cloth, made money. One sheep is worth about 60gp. It doesn't take long, but it is boring.

[Dignan]

my account is 5 days old and i already have 100k. Pretty easy to make money. You just have to do it the boring way.

[moomtazz]

Take full advantage of the three accounts allowed here. You can have one account camped at a sheep pen, one chopping wood, and one macroing skills in town. Just switch to the sheep account every 15 minutes or so to gather wool, then back to lumberjacking or mining.

Edit: Although I played a long time on OSI, I can't remember how I started out. Coming here has been a nice learning experience.

[Murugan]

Same with Mining . .. 3 accounts allows you to mine and walk a mule to smelt.
This shard does not allow un-attended macroing, but that is really talking about rail mining. If you have a razor macro set up to keep hitting the same spot on a mt over and over, you can be walking your ore to a forge, and mining, move, mine at the same time.

Which ever options work for you is what you should do! But yes, there are 3 - 5 sheep pens that allow you 5 - 10 sheep each to sheer, there are 5 cotton fields that drop cotton. And of course mt's and forests to gather resources!