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Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:21 pm
by BlackFoot
takes about a minute to decode a map, recall there, dig it up and loot the gold and items, 90 seconds if somthing goes wrong
i ignore the spawn as it doesnt do enough dmg to bother
ive never pulled really quality items from gazers compared to this either
Theres no doubt gazers you will make more gold, purely more gold but including all the really high end weapons from these maps i am stickin with the maps

so put em on a vendor
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:25 pm
by platy
As far as I know, the loot between 1-5 is all random.. aside from the regs, gold, and scrolls.
Other than that- you should have as much of a chance to get a vanq from a lvl 1 as a lvl 5 (if the number of magics were the same obviously-- however since lvl 5's drop more magic weapons the chances tilt in favor of the lvl 5s- but with the same randomness) This means you can get a vanq of a lvl 1 and nothing but cleavers in lvl 5s..
However, do 5 lvl 1's and you should see similar good magic drops.
I always keep my lvl 1's.. they can be done solo and as Blackfoot suggested, take under 5 minutes!.
I agree they are a great gold:time ratio.. although obv elder gazers (once your able to farm them) are the best gold:time ration imho.
AGain as Blackfoot suggested- it seems a higher percentage for good magic drops from chests.. so I also agree with chests you have a higher chance to get good magics.
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:01 pm
by Mikel123
BlackFoot wrote:takes about a minute to decode a map, recall there, dig it up and loot the gold and items, 90 seconds if somthing goes wrong
No way. Something like 1/3 of the chests are on one of those annoying islands with alligators, snakes, and giant serpents. Even an alligator will kill you, if you're unarmored, in the time it takes to find the chest, dig it up, and loot. And sometimes there's like 5 of them on the screen. You have to deal with them or you'll die, or they'll target your horse when you get off of it to dig.
People constantly overestimate their farming rates, because they forget about stuff like this, and the time they died to a silver serpent, and the amount of time it takes them to ID the weapons back at their house, and the times that there's already a chest where they want to dig, and the time spent putting items on their vendor, and the amount of money they have to pay their vendor to sell the item, and all they remember is the time they pulled up a power halberd from a level 1 chest in the middle of the Trinsic forest.
And again, you're acting as though the maps are free. Even 500gp each will eat away at profits from this pretty severely.
How many items are in a chest? 3 or 4? You can't compare the number of items in a chest to the number of items on an Elder Gazer. You have to compare it to the number of items on the number of Elder Gazers you can kill in the amount of time it takes you to do a chest. So if it takes me 2 minutes to do a level 1 chest, that's probably 3 elder gazers I could have killed in that time. And across them, there's probably 2 or 3 items.
Sadly, I could have earned 3200 gold from gazers in the time it took me to post this

Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:56 pm
by BlackFoot
Yea i know what your saying about going to do maps in bad locations, but I dont do maps in those locations. I have a pretty large box of maps I dont plan on doing all in swamps and jungle islands.
Your assuming Im just exaggerating or making the numbers up but Im really not.
Ive farmed enough items from elder gazers to fill up about 25 bags to max weight. So thats prolly about a mill of gps? or somthing
Ive done enough tmaps to fill up way more than that
I have a lot of experience doing both.
Dont get me wrong elder gazer/LL is waay more gold/minute. Until you take into account the items you are getting.
I also do these maps on foot with no armour and use about 4 of each reg on each tmap. I am not lying about the amount of time it takes to do one of these level 1 maps its ridiculously fast. If your new to reading the map location site it can take time but after a hundred maps it takes you about 3 second to pick your map number.
Just food for though.. its wroth it to do your level 1s is all

Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:24 am
by Mikel123
Well if you're scrapping 1/3 of your maps, I think that proves the point right there. I'm not calling you a liar, but I am saying you are mistaken. Maybe you do average 60-90 seconds per map, for the good maps, but if you're not counting the bad ones against your profit, your "average" rate is pretty misleading.
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:33 am
by BlackFoot
level 1 maps are free... you get a few an hour fishing

and i never been pked once yet
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:13 pm
by HardCore
Just tested with 4 Level 1's I fished up last night.
Took me a total of 13 minutes to decode/dig/loot/id items for 4 maps.
Looted 4200 gold and 31 items.
Ended up with bardiche of vanq, vanq cross bow, power cross bow, force cross bow, 96 id wand, 5 gh wand, fortification leather piece. The rest was junk IMO.
*thumbs up*
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:40 pm
by BenBrawl
not to long ago i bought a chest of 100 lvl 1 maps for 30k off a vendor. so ill make atleast 70k just in gold from chests, not counting selling the junk items, and selling any high end weps i get.
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:54 pm
by SJane3384
BenBrawl wrote:not to long ago i bought a chest of 100 lvl 1 maps for 30k off a vendor. so ill make atleast 70k just in gold from chests, not counting selling the junk items, and selling any high end weps i get.
Or, conversely you could smelt the junk stuff and save yourself a shit ton of time/money GMing Blacksmithy or Tinkering.
Re: Lvl 1 Maps
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:01 pm
by poogoblin
Do lvl 1 tmaps still have a guardian spawn or has this been fixed?