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Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:56 am
by Mys
and you're not actually making money off of it. Somehow I think you could get away with dropping a few of these.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:31 am
by Lazarus
Faust wrote:Why would it matter at a festival like that?

EA isn't going to be present there waiting with lawyers.
No its not lawyers you have to worry about at first, its agencys, whole companies that do nothing but scour events, websites, anywhere they can to find copywrited materials.

I had a small time business and used stock photos for a manufacturers product I carried and they found out. Crazy thing is I didn't have any hotwords listed for search engines, my site wasn't optimized either. I still dont know how they found me.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:13 am
by Faust
Have you seen the front portion of our web site that has been sitting there for nearly two years now?

This shard has the second highest average population of all the player run shards out there. We are listed #1 on google when typing "UO Second Age" in the search criteria. Electronic Arts would nail that long before anything related to something at a festival. I honestly don't think EA gives a crap about this game unless you're making money off it. Sure, it's probably best bet to avoid using copyright material since it's always the safer route to take. I just don't think anything would happen to someone if they did use it at this festival is all I am saying.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:25 am
by Lazarus
Faust wrote:Have you seen the front portion of our web site that has been sitting there for nearly two years now?

This shard has the second highest average population of all the player run shards out there. We are listed #1 on google when typing "UO Second Age" in the search criteria. Electronic Arts would nail that long before anything related to something at a festival. I honestly don't think EA gives a crap about this game unless you're making money off it. Sure, it's probably best bet to avoid using copyright material since it's always the safer route to take. I just don't think anything would happen to someone if they did use it at this festival is all I am saying.
I understand that and maybe because its not for profit they wouldn't do anything but if they did its a hassle. And for just someone trying to promote the site and shard its a hassle that isn't worth it.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:43 am
by Rhaps
Honestly there would be no issue with using the official graphics to promote a non-profit community project. If anything free shards keep the game alive and likely attract players to the official servers. It is after all free advertising.

Using images on a commercial website, no matter how small-time, without paying royalties will land you in hot water sure. But in this case as long as you aren't either making money from the use of the images or passing yourself off as Mythic/EA then there won't be any problem.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:54 am
by Lazarus
Rhaps wrote:Honestly there would be no issue with using the official graphics to promote a non-profit community project. If anything free shards keep the game alive and likely attract players to the official servers. It is after all free advertising.
You better do some homework. Generally you can't use copyrighted materials for ANYTHING (exception being ('fair use')without the permission of the copyright holder. It is illegal. Also who is to say the copyright holder wants the advertising?

I'm not trying to dampen the desire or zeal of the OP trying to spread the word, would just hate to see anyone get into trouble.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:57 am
by Budner
Illegality, and the right holder's willingness to enforce minor infractions, are two very different things.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:00 pm
by Rhaps
Fair use allows for it providing you aren't impacting on the economic interests of the copyright holder. If it was ever going to be an issue all of the free shards that are running and distributing the entire game would have been taken down long ago. A couple pics on a flyer put out at a small event isn't even going to register. Just trying to put it into perspective for yah.

Oh aye, and I'm the one that needs to do his homework? I'm not the one that got busted using copyrighted materials on a commercial website! :lol:

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:06 pm
by Lazarus
Rhaps wrote:Fair use allows for it providing you aren't impacting on the economic interests of the copyright holder. If it was ever going to be an issue all of the free shards that are running and distributing the entire game would have been taken down long ago. A couple pics on a flyer put out at a small event isn't even going to register. Just trying to put it into perspective for yah.

Oh aye, and I'm the one that needs to do his homework? I'm not the one that got busted using copyrighted materials on a commercial website! :lol:
Ok Shapiro.

Yea I needed to do my homework, that was 6 years ago and I know better. I also know better than to make assumptions.

More power to ya.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:38 pm
by orionsune
This shows up on the front page of http://www.wildirc.net...

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:42 pm
by Budner
Note the smoke coming from the castle. We should have that in-game. In fact arson in general should be added as a skill. Maybe not era-authentic, but FUN.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:20 pm
by rouss
when is the deadline for this?

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:45 pm
by Kylock
Damn Bisco that's a damn good idea mang.
Good to see you're still into the server!

I've been craving some UOSA lately, my job may be permanently changing my schedule to 4 10 hour days.
Which means I'd actually have some time to get shit on my to-do list done, and have spare UO time:D

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:03 pm
by stems and seeds
shit, a few of my friends are playing sxsw. i didn't know this even existed. now i want to go.

Re: 'Man on a Mission' SXSW Screening

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:27 pm
by Teknix
um...deadline would be Saturday evening

i like what orionsune found, especially the text part. need to have the words FREE SERVER on it somewhere. also add website address along with server info.

i do not plan on using anything that could land the server in legal trouble. my idea for the front is 'REMEMBER ULTIMA ONLINE?' with maybe some graphic behind/below it