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Not being able to steal hallys is era accurate.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: AND LETS BE HONEST - Who really wants to see thieving so powerful other than grievers. And no-one addressed why You can steal a GIANT war hammer but not a Halberd when they are already massive in damage. Is this the halberd hotline?
nightshark wrote:Not being able to steal hallys is era accurate.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: AND LETS BE HONEST - Who really wants to see thieving so powerful other than grievers. And no-one addressed why You can steal a GIANT war hammer but not a Halberd when they are already massive in damage. Is this the halberd hotline?
They weigh 11 stones, the max weight you can steal is 10.
Actually, that's kind of funny. Halberds are supposed to weigh 16 stones, which would understandably make them the second heaviest weapon in the game next to the war mace at 17 stones.nightshark wrote:Not being able to steal hallys is era accurate.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: AND LETS BE HONEST - Who really wants to see thieving so powerful other than grievers. And no-one addressed why You can steal a GIANT war hammer but not a Halberd when they are already massive in damage. Is this the halberd hotline?
They weigh 11 stones, the max weight you can steal is 10.
Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote:Yea please do - so you can stay there and I don't have to listen to those stupid comments. I'm not afraid of being stolen from again it just doesn't need any more advantages. So drop the trammel crap cause its pathetic. I didn't even play when trammel was around dun duh dun, saying how shard could grow. But whatever when it's said and done, people are gone and you can't steal from anyone I guess it is on to the next one for you. Shard that is
When I random steal, I get "This is too heavy to steal". So obviously this is not working properly here.Kaivan wrote:Actually, that's kind of funny. Halberds are supposed to weigh 16 stones, which would understandably make them the second heaviest weapon in the game next to the war mace at 17 stones.nightshark wrote:Not being able to steal hallys is era accurate.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: AND LETS BE HONEST - Who really wants to see thieving so powerful other than grievers. And no-one addressed why You can steal a GIANT war hammer but not a Halberd when they are already massive in damage. Is this the halberd hotline?
They weigh 11 stones, the max weight you can steal is 10.
In any case, halberds aren't supposed to be directly stealable, just like runebooks aren't directly stealable. One of the quirks of the code for stealing is that on any targeted theft, it checks the weight of the item to make sure that it is between 1 and 10 stones inclusive. If not, the item is reported as unstealable when targeted. however, when a random theft takes place, that check on the weight of the item is never made. This serves as a reason why runebooks must be stolen indirectly using a random theft attempt (they are a 0 stone item). This particular tactic can be used to try and steal items greater than 10 stones as well, but you'll fail to steal it a lot, even if you do target it randomly. Ultimately, its not a reliable method to steal heavy items like that, and will get you guard whacked a lot, or flag you grey at the very least.
Pac wrote:Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote:Yea please do - so you can stay there and I don't have to listen to those stupid comments. I'm not afraid of being stolen from again it just doesn't need any more advantages. So drop the trammel crap cause its pathetic. I didn't even play when trammel was around dun duh dun, saying how shard could grow. But whatever when it's said and done, people are gone and you can't steal from anyone I guess it is on to the next one for you. Shard that is
Every post from you in this thread reeks of the crap that was posted on the Stratics Ideas Forum back in 1999 that brought about Trammel and every other carebare change to the game. I'm hearing the same anecdotal sob-stories about new players getting frustrated and leaving and about how thieving and PKing is a crisis and something must be done.
This shard isn't about trying to make sure everyone is satisfied, because they never will be. If someone doesn't like the T2A ruleset then they shouldn't have started playing on this shard in the first place.
MatronDeWinter wrote:Kaivan wrote:Actually, that's kind of funny. Halberds are supposed to weigh 16 stones, which would understandably make them the second heaviest weapon in the game next to the war mace at 17 stones.nightshark wrote:Not being able to steal hallys is era accurate.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: AND LETS BE HONEST - Who really wants to see thieving so powerful other than grievers. And no-one addressed why You can steal a GIANT war hammer but not a Halberd when they are already massive in damage. Is this the halberd hotline?
They weigh 11 stones, the max weight you can steal is 10.
In any case, halberds aren't supposed to be directly stealable, just like runebooks aren't directly stealable. One of the quirks of the code for stealing is that on any targeted theft, it checks the weight of the item to make sure that it is between 1 and 10 stones inclusive. If not, the item is reported as unstealable when targeted. however, when a random theft takes place, that check on the weight of the item is never made. This serves as a reason why runebooks must be stolen indirectly using a random theft attempt (they are a 0 stone item). This particular tactic can be used to try and steal items greater than 10 stones as well, but you'll fail to steal it a lot, even if you do target it randomly. Ultimately, its not a reliable method to steal heavy items like that, and will get you guard whacked a lot, or flag you grey at the very least.
Oh no ... looks like it isn't 100% T2A rule set after all..... there goes your whole argument
When I random steal, I get "This is too heavy to steal". So obviously this is not working properly here.
MatronDeWinter wrote:Actually Sinatra SUN-FoW, that is a pretty silly argument in itself. I simply pointed out that there was an issue with stealing, and if in fact, it is working incorrectly I am positive that staff will fix it at the next available time.
If you really wanted to use that point, you could have pointed out the "event" and "trophy" systems, but that is another argument entirely.
PS: Please fix it so that I can steal halberds.
Yes, and players being able to steal from other players wasn't a "goof." Also, if someone stills from you they don't "stay blue" learn what permaflag is.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: I know we base stuff off OSI T2A but they made big goofs during those time periods so does that mean this shard does too?
100% correct and they should be removed as well.I mean duels and signups and all that aren't era accurate either.
Pac wrote:Yes, and players being able to steal from other players wasn't a "goof." Also, if someone stills from you they don't "stay blue" learn what permaflag is.Sinatra SUN-FoW wrote: I know we base stuff off OSI T2A but they made big goofs during those time periods so does that mean this shard does too?
100% correct and they should be removed as well.I mean duels and signups and all that aren't era accurate either.
Faust wrote:Hally's were never stealable in this era since they were too heavy.
Which one is it?Kaivan wrote: In any case, halberds aren't supposed to be directly stealable, just like runebooks aren't directly stealable. One of the quirks of the code for stealing is that on any targeted theft, it checks the weight of the item to make sure that it is between 1 and 10 stones inclusive. If not, the item is reported as unstealable when targeted. however, when a random theft takes place, that check on the weight of the item is never made.