Apeal to all Murderers

[Bag]

magery, clearly

[Lazarus]

[ericofskye]

OK, I am new here and am trying to play on this shard. I'm finding it frustrating to be killed over and over again by a bunch of powerful RED's in a place like the Brit Graveyard. I got no chance when you can kill me with one hit or spell. What purpose other than driving new players away can you have by killing newbs. Then you loot me of the few things I do have that took me hours to obtain.

This is not the kind game advertised for this shard. It's an out of control GM murderer owned game.

Eric

[lownslowneon]

I don't understand why anyone tries to hunt in the Brit GY...

Theres A BUNCH of graveyards in this world that are close to towns that have BETTER spawn that brit gy and zero pks.

Expand out away from Britain.

If I am at Brit GY and see some newbies hunting I usually gate them to a different gy lol....

[Lazarus]

I got no chance when you can kill me with one hit or spell.

Not to bust ya balls but seriously this is your biggest mistake right here. Until you have 100 str you need to stay under the guard's protection. Chopping wood and making bows not only get you gold but it will get that strength (hit points) up as well. I go to brit GY all the time and pvp there too some times but only when I had 100 str did I live through it.

[ericofskye]

Well you just confirmed what I said. You guys have no intention of helping newbs and are having your fun your way.
So I am out of here. I was able to delete all but my newest char.

EricOfSkye

[Lazarus]

Well you just confirmed what I said. You guys have no intention of helping newbs and are having your fun your way.
So I am out of here. I was able to delete all but my newest char.

EricOfSkye

Eh.... I just helped you out by telling you where you're going wrong. Think of it like this. Some console games aren't free roaming, you just can't go to an area in the game because you see it. You might need a key card, to level up etc. UO isn't like that in that it will prevent you to go to a certain area but imagine it did. Imagine it won't let you outside of the town until your stats were out. If you play like that I guarantee you not only success when you do venture out but you will have more fun and quicker. You are trying to avoid putting in work and that just can't happen. No one, especially a red, is going to give you a free meal my friend.

[QniDopi]

Lazarus you are missing the point.. The GRAND meaning..
UO is as we all would say the best MMORPG crated ever.. (at least i think like that) But most important is it is dieing.. The newer and more modern MMORPGs are taking place and the fans of the t2a are either constant or lowering number.. Every person that is part of this community MUST do as MUCH as he can (as long as it's not bothering him) to attract new players or at least no ruin the fun of newbs.. And i think that everyone no matter if they are red should help newbs or the shard will fade with time.. i don't want that, hopefully neither of you..
We all should agree, the tolerance for new players must be prior number one IMO..

[Lazarus]

Lazarus you are missing the point.. The GRAND meaning..
UO is as we all would say the best MMORPG crated ever.. (at least i think like that) But most important is it is dieing.. The newer and more modern MMORPGs are taking place and the fans of the t2a are either constant or lowering number.. Every person that is part of this community MUST do as MUCH as he can (as long as it's not bothering him) to attract new players or at least no ruin the fun of newbs.. And i think that everyone no matter if they are red should help newbs or the shard will fade with time.. i don't want that, hopefully neither of you..
We all should agree, the tolerance for new players must be prior number one IMO..

Lets examine things here:

1) UOSA - T2A replica shard based on the T2A era, shard strives for era-accuracy which would include no (newbie or "Young" status)

2) UO is a dying game, Feluccia is already dead, so a T2A version of the game will probably never have an ever increasing player base due to the games people currently have. The only ones that will stay and play and endure are vets who played during T2A OSI or new players that understand the concept.

3) You sound like the OSI developers that made "Young" status and Trammel. They too wanted to please the whiners, new players, etc. and since they couldn't make vet players "be nice" they implemented things into the game that did so and thus changed UO forever.

Now if you want to help a new player than by all means help him, dunno what you are going to do buy unless he's going to have people helping him and surrounding him the entire time hes playing hes going to get griefed and killed. UNLESS he takes my advice and keeps his butt under guard protection until hes strong enough to atleast run away.

[QniDopi]

I have no idea how did you understand me that way.. Who ever said something about young status?!? or trammel or things like that.. I love ultima the way it is now.. I said one major thing and you missed it again.. The fact about ultima being an old game and always decreasing in population is a fact.. but there are 2 ways for this shard to die.. faster and slower one.. By tolerance and help i mean the following things..:
1) pointless killing of developing chars around GYs.. even in Brit one..
2) pointless stucking players game via killing them on islands and leaving them there.. Some people (imagine that) don't have 3-4 mages with runes marked everywhere to save their chars in such a sitiuations..
3) pointless looting of way to recall home so they continue their game

I know these things are fun.. But that game is endangered one.. We must do some things to keep her from fading away.. What does it have to do with OSI.. i have no idea..
If someone feels much bigger man by doing these things he just makes the shard die the "faster way"..
There are limits for griefing.. to be fun for all..

[Lazarus]

Let me first say while I do have a pk character I dont grief, heck hes not even red yet. No one said anything about dry looting a means to get home until you just now. Bottom line is the OP had no business in Brit GY and I'm sure he acknowledges that fact because he says there are "powerful reds" there. Murderers are murders because they kill people, on purpose. Generally a murderer isn't going to walk up to a blue, double click his paperdoll, see that he has no title, which doesn't mean much anyway, and then ponders whether this guy is new or not. They are like bulls when they see red, when they see blue they attack.

As far as the dry looting. I agree. I would much like to at the VERY LEAST have my horse not killed and my rune and a recall still on my corpse. Horse killing serves absolutely no purpose but then again I wasn't in dungeons until I had gold in the bank to replace whatever I lost.

My OSI point was that you want people to be nice to each other. OSI wanted the same thing. They didnt want people to get turned off by the harsh reality that is T2A so they did something about it. We can't do anything about it so the BEST advice you can give to this new player is to stay under guard protection. If he wants to fight skeletons at the very least he can run outside of the west end of brit and go down to the shore and fight in the forest. That would be beneficial for him and you backing up that advice will yield better results than you telling everyone to new grief new characters because in reality we dont know whose new and who aint.

[QniDopi]

Hell i don't want ppl to be nice to each other.. it's gona be boring.. just don't scare away the few that are joining.. do it the way you like..
btw you can easily know after you killed someone if he is new or not (so you decide to dry loot him or not..) - newbs run like hell the second they see you, die in 2 spells (due to low magic resistance), have no trapped pouches, or are just weak.. - not hard to be noticed by someone who claims him self veteran..

[uofuntime]

In my opinion if getting griefed as a newbie is all it takes to drive you away from playing on this shard, then you chose the wrong shard to play on or are playing for the wrong reasons. All these new players quitting--I'm not sure they even like the T2A/Felucca no-holds-barred environment. There are other shards that prevent griefing from happening. Why not play on those? There is still consensual pvp, etc. The unique thing about T2A UO or Felucca is that there is going to be non consensual player-versus-player situations. There is nothing wrong about the player base here. It's just that the game allows them to do anything. If OSI ditched Trammel, the griefing would come back full force there too. This is the way gamers act online.

The pks and griefers provide most of the excitement and fun on this shard if you ask me. I remember as a newb I took up camping, a bedroll, and basically hunted in the wilderness, evading pks. It was so fun.

[Derek_vinyard]

In my opinion if getting griefed as a newbie is all it takes to drive you away from playing on this shard, then you chose the wrong shard to play on or are playing for the wrong reasons. All these new players quitting--I'm not sure they even like the T2A/Felucca no-holds-barred environment. There are other shards that prevent griefing from happening. Why not play on those? There is still consensual pvp, etc. The unique thing about T2A UO or Felucca is that there is going to be non consensual player-versus-player situations. There is nothing wrong about the player base here. It's just that the game allows them to do anything. If OSI ditched Trammel, the griefing would come back full force there too. This is the way gamers act online.

The pks and griefers provide most of the excitement and fun on this shard if you ask me. I remember as a newb I took up camping, a bedroll, and basically hunted in the wilderness, evading pks. It was so fun.

Well Said!

I can understand asking for mercy but do NOT expect it on a server like this.

[Drudan]

Im new to this shard but played uo yrs ago. havent learned alot about the shard yet.. but reading this stuff about murders and stuff made me think of a question lol does this shard have a tram and fel? or is it pre-tram and fel