UO Second Age

Brules wrote:I blame Faust. He championed the new changes, then epic dodges playing on his changes. I think with a few tweaks it would be good.....and mini heal spam is not era accurate.

Hope this gets fixed soon, as I think it is driving away a lot of PVP people.

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This, problem is this issue has been whipped to death. People who want PvP will leave, and have.

nightshark wrote:Mini spam was definitely in UO:R and there are no documented changes of spell recovery or timers.

T2A mini heal didn't heal as much damage as it does on UOSA. Spamming didn't work for escaping a combo, I know I was one of the first people on Lake Superior to have access to DSL and later a T1 line (that's why I could rock on foot and in my loincloth, but that's another story) In duels between my friend Damage Inc., who had one of the fastest connections and a few third party program issues (cough, Easy UO, Speedhack, cough) never even had mini heal in the hot keys as it was not worth it as it healed such little damage. Connection issues were not the problem and hally duels were not an issue as the timer did not work like it does on UOSA. It simply did not reset after a hit, dis-arm, wait for 2.5 seconds, re-arm and hit cycle. It just didn't happen that way.

Point being is mini heal was not a viable means to escape death, combos and mana management was how duels were won or lost back in those days. I used fireball and lightning more than I did mini heal or the hally.

Then again I guess if someone doesn't present the actual source code it's just an exercise in mental masturbation. Really isn't an issue cause I don't play here anymore, just pop in on these forums to get a little UO fix now and then (I know, I have issues)

Too many lamers here don't want the status quo changed so they just ignore and dismiss any evidence to the contrary.

I don't think I ever once cast mini heal until I was rocking 2/3 fast cast jewelry...including my newbie days in 97. It was always more economical to cast g-heal.

Mini heal is a HUGE issue here on UOSA. I agree with those who are concerned about it.

Mini heal should not consistently heal 11-12 damage. At the very LEAST, it should be 7-12 damage at GM magery.

This has been one of the most obvious inaccuracies on UOSA weather there is hard evidence or not.

Where does the current mini heal evidence come from? That's what I want to know.

Also, what does the demo say about it?

Malaikat wrote:I don't think I ever once cast mini heal until I was rocking 2/3 fast cast jewelry...including my newbie days in 97. It was always more economical to cast g-heal.

lol

Rose wrote:Mini heal should not consistently heal 11-12 damage. At the very LEAST, it should be 7-12 damage at GM magery.

except we have an era screenshot of it healing something like 14

mini heal values are taken from the demo and stratics afaik... they are consistent throughout pre t2a to UO:R, so unless there were 2 ninja patches (for the values to be reduced, then increased), it was never changed.

Pac wrote:Too many lamers here don't want the status quo changed so they just ignore and dismiss any evidence to the contrary.

I couldn't care less if the mini heal values were changed or not, this shard is a replica of '99 and everything on this shard is based on evidence, not opinion or memories.

How can you have a screenshot, a single moment captured in time, that shows the progression or relative frames of reference necessary to prove how much damage was healed?

Malaikat wrote:How can you have a screenshot, a single moment captured in time, that shows the progression or relative frames of reference necessary to prove how much damage was healed?

It's a screenshot of someone casting mini heal on themselves that healed 14 damage during a PvP battle in deciet.

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Unfortunately it looks like the link to the screenshot in that thread has expired. There are about a billion other threads on mini heal if anyone wants to go through and research it.

That didn't address my question. I'm thinking about it logically and it simply makes no sense to believe a single moment in time could show someone going from 40 to 55 health, unless the journal is open I suppose. Was this capture taken from a reputable source? Could it have been manipulated in any way?

It was a screen capture from an old player here (Holly Lee Dj), which was provided with hundreds of other screen captures of the T2A era. To suggest the spell that was cast was not mini heal is kind of silly, if it was a greater heal then the caster would have around 10 magery - casting GH from a scroll. The spell mini heal is clearly visible on the screenshot as one of the only spells being cast (in a group PvP battle). On the bottom of the screen you can see "14 points of damage have been healed".

This screenshot is not the sole evidence of the values we use on UOSA. As I said before, feel free to do your own research before giving comments and criticism on a mechanic which thousands of discussion posts exist about.

Heals is era accurate.

Cookie cutter templates is era accurate.

The forum is wet with tears.

seems like mens rea is scared his perfect pvp shard is ganna be nerfed

Yes I remember the pic of 14 hp's healed, I couldn't remember what the max was...

I was more concerned with the hp range it healed then the max hps it heals. But if its consistent in the demo then I have nothing to bitch about....

Except! The rate you can mini heal at. It shouldn't be that fast.

Although I'm sure the issue has already been put to bed in some way or another.

Im sure someone could go make a private server smake on cheese cake or some server name and put like 3 balrons in the balron room take a screen shot and post it on the fourms and THEN bam the gms will probly ut 3 balrons in the balron room