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http://uo.stratics.com/content/atlas/covetous.php

Level "G"

What other database do we use for accurate spawns? I'm sure dragons are included on it for cove level 5 otherwise derrick wouldn't have put them there.

There Were dragons there.
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tekai wrote:http://uo.stratics.com/content/atlas/covetous.php

Level "G"

What other database do we use for accurate spawns? I'm sure dragons are included on it for cove level 5 otherwise derrick wouldn't have put them there.

There Were dragons there.
Oh, Covetous. It all makes sense now. And here I was frantically scouring the internets for information about dragons outside of Cove.

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Oh forgive me for using abbreviation for it.

My point stands though, If I wanted dragons that is where I would go and there was no end to the supply.
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fortin wrote:n fact on Monday night during the Orc fort event there was some noob char waiting at serpents hold to block my stable slots as soon as I claimed to get some dragons.
Reaaaallly? How horrible :mrgreen: So you were griefing an event with a slew of era inaccurate dragons and you consider someone taking your stable slots a cheap trick?
tekai wrote:I was a tamer during T2A.
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I had as many dragons as I wanted, I remember specifically having 3 Grey, and 3 red that I trained for a very long time. They had names, I wrote stories about them, i was 15 years old.

To the people blocking the stables, Shame on you for hurting the feel of T2A because some jerk face was using stools + dragons. That wasn't every tamer, and you are punishing everyone for it.
So you recall having 6 dragons...six. Ive yet to see someone recall and/or produce a screenshot that proves there were lots of tamers with 40+ dragons.

As for blocking stables. I don't personally do it long term. Ill take stable slots from nubs that have far too many dragons and then ill sell them (at a minor cost ot break even) to people who don't (or at least people who I feel don't). In essence, spreading the slots out.
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What you don't realize, is that the tamer with 40 dragons is hurting the shard less then you filling up all the stables.

Why did people not have 40+ dragon bombs in 1999? It wasn't from lack of mechanics. I suppose if I had wanted to tame that many dragons I would have been able to. Why didn't I?

Probably because back then, people had a little more honor and doing something like that would have likely gotten tamers nerfed, so they didn't.

We were kids, hearing stories of dupers and exploiters being banned left and right and we didn't want to risk our accounts, If you were a tamer, you would have had to have really loved your account.

You say I remember my 6 dragons, I was very careful with those to keep them from dieing, using them late at night and training them in places were PKs' would likely not show up. I had more "farming" dragons that I would use in other places. There was nothing stopping me back then from having as many dragons as I wanted, I just didn't bring them all out at once.
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tekai wrote: Probably because back then, people had a little more honor and doing something like that would have likely gotten tamers nerfed, so they didn't.
I am a software developer and I have researched MMORPG design extensively. I can assure you that honor has zero to do with why something does or doesn't happen on a large scale. Something prevented people from having 40 dragons...but it wasn't honor and it wasn't fear of being banned.


I wasn't a tamer back then though, so I couldn't say whether the stables were full, how full they were, and what stopped people from having so many.

On the plus side, when/if I take stable slots here, I quickly find someone to sell them to that benefits them. I figure if it eventually gets to a point where lots of people own a few scattered stable slots all over...the problem will solve itself.
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I was trying to participate in your event. Not grief it...? I am a tamer, therefore I will attack with animals. Since when is using dragons griefing? It sounds like you just hate tamers. I lost around 8 stable slots and was forced to use all my dragons(8) from that stable. Boohoo just more dead orcs.

I don't even see how a stack of dragons would affect your game play in any way. Are you complaining about the amount of gold in the economy or something? Are you jealous of the tamers ability to farm? Clearly its not the tamers filling up the stables slots so there should be no reason to target them. Until a month or two ago there were never any issues with stables yet there were countless tamers with huge stacks of dragons.

Dragon stacking wasn't rampant back in the day because the average player didn't have 3 accounts to fuck around with. Its quite simple. If your familiar with how people stack dragons and white wyrms then you should know that it takes multiple accounts. Thats easy to do with our modern computers and high speed connections. But, back on dial-up, could you imagine having 2-3 clients funneled into your 56k connection and have them run smoothly on your ancient PC? It greatly reduced the chances of anyone attempting this tactic.
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fortin wrote:I was trying to participate in your event. Not grief it...? I am a tamer, therefore I will attack with animals. Since when is using dragons griefing? It sounds like you just hate tamers. I lost around 8 stable slots and was forced to use all my dragons(8) from that stable. Boohoo just more dead orcs.
Bringing 1 or 2 dragons, maybe 4, is participating. Bringing so many it begins to lag people out, cause clutter, and provide no real chance to fight back is griefing. Either way, im not suggesting you shouldn't do that nor am I complaining about it. Feel free to bring all the dragons you want. I am merely ponting out it is a two way street and you shouldn't complain when someone gets your stable spots or sends it back your way.
fortin wrote:Are you jealous of the tamers ...
Yes. Me, who has role played an under powered orc for most of my ultima online life is jealous of a tamer and his dragons. That makes perfect sense.
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I make a killing selling stable slots for 5k a piece.




I never knew a chicken or rabbit could be so valueable in UO.....

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Pied Piper wrote:I make a killing selling stable slots for 5k a piece.




I never knew a chicken or rabbit could be so valueable in UO.....
Hmmm, I sell mine for 500gp. But im more about disbanding the dragon mills and less about trying to make a huge profit.
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Ronk wrote:
Pied Piper wrote:I make a killing selling stable slots for 5k a piece.




I never knew a chicken or rabbit could be so valueable in UO.....
Hmmm, I sell mine for 500gp. But im more about disbanding the dragon mills and less about trying to make a huge profit.

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ya im all about just blocking stables, i don't think anyone needs more than 1 horse in the stable, or 1 dragon. Have more, i don't give a damn, but i certainly have a good size of stable space taken on teh server. I started about 3 months ago aquiring stable slots. I saw a guy in the elders and his drags were 1 shotting them so i said piss on this. I have been stabling cats etc. for well over 3 months now trying to get more and more space. I hate tamers, and everything about them.




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MatronDeWinter wrote:The more you post and whine about this, the funner it is for myself and people like me to keep 1000 cats in the stables. Good work.

I cannot wait until there are no more players on this server.

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Omnicron wrote:
MatronDeWinter wrote:The more you post and whine about this, the funner it is for myself and people like me to keep 1000 cats in the stables. Good work.

I cannot wait until there are no more players on this server.

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Re: Stop the blockade of stables.

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Tiwstacain wrote:ya im all about just blocking stables, i don't think anyone needs more than 1 horse in the stable, or 1 dragon. Have more, i don't give a damn, but i certainly have a good size of stable space taken on teh server. I started about 3 months ago aquiring stable slots. I saw a guy in the elders and his drags were 1 shotting them so i said piss on this. I have been stabling cats etc. for well over 3 months now trying to get more and more space. I hate tamers, and everything about them.
Let me know if you need donations to keep your bank full enough to pay for them. I do not have the time to run around filling stables, but I support your endeavor.

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