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Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:10 pm
by Sandro
LiquidFire wrote:Illmarin assured me this castle would not be falling.
Bull has no idea what he's talking about. The castle will indeed fall because the administration intentionally banned & cleared the friends/co-owner list from all of the housing that Telamon owned, with the direct goal of making these establishments unable to be refreshed.

The entire premise of their ban is based purely on speculation, and this so claimed "Scripted Forum Vandalism". The ban was issued because Telamon chose to remove all of his informative posts from the forums, when he decided to leave the server. In some asinine way this was all of a sudden deemed a bannable offense, and additionally was labeled as vandalism..(???) This is also the reason why all of you are no longer able to edit & manage your posts on the forums, because they directly disabled the ability to do so because now it is considered vandalism to remove your own posts which you yourself as the author wrote..

With the official decision to leave the server he split all of his assets amongst a small group of individuals who still actively, or occasional play on Second Age. The rares-museum castle was not altered, only the ownership changed hands, as it was stated that he wanted to keep the castle in its current form for all of the players on Second Age to be able to view. So, in short, giving your possessions away to other players is not a legal act, and will result in the accounts involved being banned, without any warning at all & no factual evidence at all necessary to make this decision.

Events like these are specifically related to why there are very few veterans who continue to play on Second Age, because the administration will ban you at the very moment an opportunity arises. Clearly they had already received sufficient funds from his monthly subscriptions, which were abruptly ended back when the forum moderators (not staff) were abusing their privileges to view detailed information of the paypal/donation logs. Even to this very day, the forum moderators can view all of your IP addresses, even petty moderators such as those for single guild-forums.

Long story short, this is Derrick's server and if he didn't want any of us playing here, he could have easily just said "fuck you" and banned the accounts, that's really not an issue. However instead of just being forth-right, they went about doing it in a shady way, and basically made up new rules/policy on the spot as sufficient evidence to justify a ban, so that the integrity of the server didn't take a hit.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:17 pm
by Galendae
Ya Baby! She is Dropping! Thanks Sandro. Don't give two craps about you and Telamon's cheating ways. Bye and thanks for the loot.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:29 am
by son
You know you are in trouble when Sandro comes to your rescue

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:30 am
by Mikel123
Sandro wrote:The entire premise of their ban is based purely on speculation
Aren't you speculating that they're speculating? What is staff speculating about? Seems if they banned for "forum vandalism", the evidence is pretty clear.
Sandro wrote:Events like these are specifically related to why there are very few veterans who continue to play on Second Age, because the administration will ban you at the very moment an opportunity arises.
It certainly seems like bans are being given more actively this year, which frankly I'm OK with, as I've said in the past I think the staff was way too lax and forgiving with that stuff. Though of course I have no idea what the background to these events has been.

But come on... first of all, your statement above ("the very moment an opportunity arises") is just petty and silly. And second, perhaps a more obvious reason vets leave is because we played this game for a while in 1999, and now for a while here, and most of us are older, with outside responsibilities and interests. If I had to guess why people ultimately leave here, I'd guess it's a ratio of 10:1 my reasoning to yours. And I'm being generous.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:38 am
by Populus
Everything looted from this IDOC should be trashbarreled. I will try to attend and trashbarrel as much as I can, feel free to join me.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:47 am
by Xandorf
Populus wrote:Everything looted from this IDOC should be trashbarreled. I will try to attend and trashbarrel as much as I can, feel free to join me.
Why, so your rares are worth more?

Nice try....

Seriously though this shit is still greatly, by the Op's estimates this should have fell by now lol...

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:26 am
by Bull
This is completely correct.

I am not sure how I was brought into this post but I said nothing of the sort... This whole Telemon situation is completely unbelievable and really should of been handled better. One of many I have been hearing about lately.
Sandro wrote:
LiquidFire wrote:Illmarin assured me this castle would not be falling.
Bull has no idea what he's talking about. The castle will indeed fall because the administration intentionally banned & cleared the friends/co-owner list from all of the housing that Telamon owned, with the direct goal of making these establishments unable to be refreshed.

The entire premise of their ban is based purely on speculation, and this so claimed "Scripted Forum Vandalism". The ban was issued because Telamon chose to remove all of his informative posts from the forums, when he decided to leave the server. In some asinine way this was all of a sudden deemed a bannable offense, and additionally was labeled as vandalism..(???) This is also the reason why all of you are no longer able to edit & manage your posts on the forums, because they directly disabled the ability to do so because now it is considered vandalism to remove your own posts which you yourself as the author wrote..

With the official decision to leave the server he split all of his assets amongst a small group of individuals who still actively, or occasional play on Second Age. The rares-museum castle was not altered, only the ownership changed hands, as it was stated that he wanted to keep the castle in its current form for all of the players on Second Age to be able to view. So, in short, giving your possessions away to other players is not a legal act, and will result in the accounts involved being banned, without any warning at all & no factual evidence at all necessary to make this decision.

Events like these are specifically related to why there are very few veterans who continue to play on Second Age, because the administration will ban you at the very moment an opportunity arises. Clearly they had already received sufficient funds from his monthly subscriptions, which were abruptly ended back when the forum moderators (not staff) were abusing their privileges to view detailed information of the paypal/donation logs. Even to this very day, the forum moderators can view all of your IP addresses, even petty moderators such as those for single guild-forums.

Long story short, this is Derrick's server and if he didn't want any of us playing here, he could have easily just said "fuck you" and banned the accounts, that's really not an issue. However instead of just being forth-right, they went about doing it in a shady way, and basically made up new rules/policy on the spot as sufficient evidence to justify a ban, so that the integrity of the server didn't take a hit.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:39 am
by Samorite
Looking at what is in the last few that have dropped Telemon must have put hours into it and I know if it was me I would be gutted it was all going to waste.

So Telemon I tip my hat to you sir..

Now if its gonna drop why not save and turn it in to an event ?

get a bit of spawn around it, a few new baddies

at least it wont just be a loot feast???

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:52 am
by Blaise
Hahaha, there's gonna be some spawn all right.
Bring fresh underoos.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:54 am
by Galendae
Samorite wrote:Looking at what is in the last few that have dropped Telemon must have put hours into it and I know if it was me I would be gutted it was all going to waste.

So Telemon I tip my hat to you sir..

Now if its gonna drop why not save and turn it in to an event ?

get a bit of spawn around it, a few new baddies

at least it wont just be a loot feast???
This will be a player run event, you wait and see ;)

If you remember Beating U's idoc, lots of baddies will be provided. This has at least one guaranteed death for everyone who shows.
I am way off on the drop time, was just overly excited when I saw Telamon's minions camping, confirmed to me that it was going down.
The Eternal Empire will fall and his crowning jewel to scripting, his museum.

Trust me, Telamon and his minions will be there to try and reacquire some of the loot back.
My guess/hunch is this will not go down as a normal IDOC, by the populace or the admin

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:04 am
by Populus
Xandorf wrote:
Populus wrote:Everything looted from this IDOC should be trashbarreled. I will try to attend and trashbarrel as much as I can, feel free to join me.
Why, so your rares are worth more?

Nice try....

Seriously though this shit is still greatly, by the Op's estimates this should have fell by now lol...
Yes, I am intending to trashbarrel all the rares so that my one or two dirty pots will increase in value.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:00 pm
by Blaise
Derrick should just nuke the house like he nuked the friends list.

Dibs on my purple throne (never should have sold it!!!)

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:23 pm
by Jason-
Editing posts in this forum and calling it vandalism is the icing on the cake for this shard pertaining to ignorance.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:35 pm
by Bull
I would not be surprised if it were dropped manually from staff exactly when uhh members and Blackfoots friends are there per the usual event occurrences.

Re: GREATEST IDOC EVER!!!! Telamon's Museum is going down!

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:43 pm
by Roser
Sandro made some very brazen claims there.... I think he's wearing hate colored goggles, also his opinion is extremely biased in this situation.

There has been so much slander against UOSA since Telemon's shard opened up, what Sandro wrote is just another unfounded pot shot at UOSA.

Take a chill pill and go enjoy your new home. Stop trying to throw shit at the Staff here.

And, dibs on the neon blue sandles!