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Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:11 pm
by keelonzo
Malaikat wrote:It's not an interesting idea, and it will generate no interesting conversations. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is an idiot
Must be a republican. =))
j/k this is the second best response.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:55 pm
by Galendae
Malaikat wrote:Excretious wrote:Great Idea.... Its appaling to see how rich certain ppl got with some of the latest IDOCs.
What's wrong with an uneven distribution of wealth?
Obama would not like this response. You have heard of the NSA, right?
Malaikat is obviously a 1% *sniff*
Those accounts of yours Mal....you did not build those! You did it on the back of Newbs you PK'd!!!
Malaikat, heading soon to a FEMA Camp for re-education, what a troglydyte!
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:09 pm
by Malaikat
Galendae wrote:Malaikat wrote:Excretious wrote:Great Idea.... Its appaling to see how rich certain ppl got with some of the latest IDOCs.
What's wrong with an uneven distribution of wealth?
Obama would not like this response. You have heard of the NSA, right?
Malaikat is obviously a 1% *sniff*
Those accounts of yours Mal....you did not build those! You did it on the back of Newbs you PK'd!!!
Malaikat, heading soon to a FEMA Camp for re-education, what a troglydyte!
I'm a Libertarian...
I often joke that I'm the poorest shard vet. I don't own a tamer and I don't idoc. I'm actually a testament to the fact that you can compete and have fun without owning mills in rares or watching dragons breath fire at gazers 24/7. I don't care about trammel so the fact that a handful of people hoard all of it bothers me not at all. That's the way it's always been. You're all salty that you recently had a shot to own some yourselves and came up short.
Regardless, a shard wipe or item deletion would always be the worst idea ever. Like in any economy, it isn't fairness or equality that matter. It's the promise of stability. It's the precise reason that Marxism sounds fine on paper and has historically produced the worst results. People don't want a clean slate. They want to know that their time and hard work will result in tangible and stable wealth - generally even though that wealth may not be as great as that possessed by others. It's still mine. Its what I've earned or been blessed enough to own, and there's no danger that I'll lose it save for by my will or stupidity.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:20 pm
by Galendae
Malaikat wrote:Galendae wrote:Malaikat wrote:Excretious wrote:Great Idea.... Its appaling to see how rich certain ppl got with some of the latest IDOCs.
What's wrong with an uneven distribution of wealth?
Obama would not like this response. You have heard of the NSA, right?
Malaikat is obviously a 1% *sniff*
Those accounts of yours Mal....you did not build those! You did it on the back of Newbs you PK'd!!!
Malaikat, heading soon to a FEMA Camp for re-education, what a troglydyte!
I'm a Libertarian...
I often joke that I'm the poorest shard vet. I don't own a tamer and I don't idoc. I'm actually a testament to the fact that you can compete and have fun without owning mills in rares or watching dragons breath fire at gazers 24/7. I don't care about trammel so the fact that a handful of people hoard all of it bothers me not at all. That's the way it's always been. You're all salty that you recently had a shot to own some yourselves and came up short.
Regardless, a shard wipe or item deletion would always be the worst idea ever. Like in any economy, it isn't fairness or equality that matter. It's the promise of stability. It's the precise reason that Marxism sounds fine on paper and has historically produced the worst results. People don't want a clean slate. They want to know that their time and hard work will result in tangible and stable wealth - generally even though that wealth may not be as great as that possessed by others. It's still mine. Its what I've earned or been blessed enough to own, and there's no danger that I'll lose it save for by my will or stupidity.
Amen! Austrian school economist are cheering from there graves! Mise and Hayak!
Yet morons throughout this country still vote in socialist or socialist leaning candidates.
Mal, what does it feel like to be the lone voice of logic, in a world full of ignorance?
What you described above is "the importance of the Rule of Law" HAyak gives that a whole chapter in "Road to Serfdom". Funny, Derrick has been a consistent applier of the "rule of law" (Very little arbitrary action) on this shard and because of it, the shard has flourished.
14 changes to Affordable Care Act, all by fiat and outside the law by Obama. Not a peep from our media elites.
Baaaahhh! Sheeple!
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:38 pm
by Kaivan
Keep the thread on topic.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:43 pm
by Malaikat
Galendae wrote:
Mal, what does it feel like to be the lone voice of logic, in a world full of ignorance?
Disheartening.
I enjoy the favorable odds that I can engage anyone on any topic and come away looking like a genius, but mostly it's just depressing.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:50 pm
by Budner
Galendae you should understand what socialism IS before slapping that label on American politicians. Look it up, and study it, and then you'll understand that Obama and even the most liberal congressfolk (or whoever you're referring to) are far from being socialist.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:45 pm
by Wonko the Sane
If we had all the time in the world, of course it would be fun. Even more fun would be a new map

However, wiping the shard isn't a good idea. Think of those who started maybe just a few months ago, finally got that house they wanted... now they have to do it again. Or those who aren't GM Moneymakers who finally have something larger, and then have to do it all again. I think it will turn away more people than it attracts.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:56 am
by Li Meiyang
Other than the "fresh start" aspect, there are two obvious reasons to start over. Razor and housing, neither of which are era-accurate.
Make a sane policy, of one house per account and ban razor.
Everyone running around on three accounts is ridiculous too. Limit it to one or two.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:11 am
by MatronDeWinter
uo siege perilous
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:04 am
by Ohm
Lol my comment got deleted? Nice
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:33 am
by Gork
I saw It ohm!!! I'm WITH YOU BROTHER!!!
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:41 am
by Meradin420
If you want to see this server die, and that other server that shall not be named, become the only UO server with more than 200 clients on it...than sure, rock it out.
Derrek already said when I started playing here in 2010, that no chars, no items, no houses would be wipe.....ever....I expect him to die of old age before this place is allowed to fall...
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:16 am
by Pac
Meradin420 wrote:If you want to see this server die, and that other server that shall not be named, become the only UO server with more than 200 clients on it...than sure, rock it out.
Derrek already said when I started playing here in 2010, that no chars, no items, no houses would be wipe.....ever....I expect him to die of old age before this place is allowed to fall...
The only server? Really? I know of multiple UO servers out there with way more clients on than dead-UOSA's shameful '200 client' count.
People saying this would "kill the shard" - you don't get it, the shard is already dead.
Re: Purge The Server
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:20 am
by Freight Elevator
Pac wrote: I know of multiple UO servers out there with way more clients on than dead-UOSA's shameful '200 client' count.
People saying this would "kill the shard" - you don't get it, the shard is already dead.
You know all 2 of them?