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Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:52 am
by poogoblin
Sounds like no intervention should have happened. Why is this any different than blocking house placement with ghosts?

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:13 pm
by Hoots
archaicsubrosa77 wrote:On a side note what does happen if you log off on a ship, yours or not and it is moved. Is your log in destination the ship or the area in which it is located? Having Never logged off on a ship before I have not the foggiest myself. And what happens if you are mid sail during last save...does the ship continure on forward if you do not stop it and log back in soon?
You just end up on the closest piece of land...which can be some interesting areas... No different then when your boat decays out at sea and then you log in.

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:15 pm
by son
So did a Gm kick him off or not?

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:22 pm
by Eulogy
I don't think you get that message when the boat moves and you log back in.

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:37 pm
by Derrick
ganzomanolo wrote:Now i demand why did the gm kicked me?
The character was kicked for packet flooding. I did everything I could to get your attention before doing this. The packet spam was without any delay and beyond reasonable. Had it been slower I'd have not gotten involved.

I recognize that we have overlooked this in the past, but I have not previously seen this go on at these speeds for this length of time.

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:03 am
by GuardianKnight
Derrick wrote:
ganzomanolo wrote:Now i demand why did the gm kicked me?
The character was kicked for packet flooding. I did everything I could to get your attention before doing this. The packet spam was without any delay and beyond reasonable. Had it been slower I'd have not gotten involved.

I recognize that we have overlooked this in the past, but I have not previously seen this go on at these speeds for this length of time.

PacketPWned

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:22 am
by archaicsubrosa77
here comes another ghost grief now

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:44 pm
by ganzomanolo
Derrick wrote:
ganzomanolo wrote:Now i demand why did the gm kicked me?
The character was kicked for packet flooding. I did everything I could to get your attention before doing this. The packet spam was without any delay and beyond reasonable. Had it been slower I'd have not gotten involved.

I recognize that we have overlooked this in the past, but I have not previously seen this go on at these speeds for this length of time.
ok i will put some delay the next time.

PS: hyppogrif had my same delay but wasn't kicked!

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:11 am
by valheru
ganzomanolo wrote:
Derrick wrote:
ganzomanolo wrote:Now i demand why did the gm kicked me?
The character was kicked for packet flooding. I did everything I could to get your attention before doing this. The packet spam was without any delay and beyond reasonable. Had it been slower I'd have not gotten involved.

I recognize that we have overlooked this in the past, but I have not previously seen this go on at these speeds for this length of time.
ok i will put some delay the next time.

PS: hyppogrif had my same delay but wasn't kicked!
his packets were what, 0.0034% of what the server receives? Why was this an issue?

I paged a gm because 3 guys were spamming "(NPC Name) adf" at the vesper bank, SPAMMING IT, while the npc responded with a full paragraph of text each tiem (it's a bug). this caused your journal to become full in 0.02 seconds. I paged a gm, and the gm responded with "It's not illegal to spam text at the vesper bank".

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:53 am
by archaicsubrosa77
I paged a gm because 3 guys were spamming "(NPC Name) adf" at the vesper bank, SPAMMING IT, while the npc responded with a full paragraph of text each tiem (it's a bug). this caused your journal to become full in 0.02 seconds. I paged a gm, and the gm responded with "It's not illegal to spam text at the vesper bank".

Sounds like you got OWNED by a newly made policy. It happens a lot here, get used to it. You do something perfectly legal, and you get in trouble for it because a GM decides to make a new shard rule on the fly.

Like i said, get used it to it....[/quote]

No you cant spam for extraordinarily long amounts of time. And it could very well be that they wanted to make the guy think he was safe so they could figure out what he was doing.

Try being a little nicer though in addressing that. The staff here doesn't need to be belittled as your public servent you know. Ask like "Did you ever follow up on what that spammer was doing at Vesper bank?" in a post or something.

I can tell you this too man, they get a lot of crap from alot of people all the time. It's like they are Humanitarian workers in Africa that can only do so much at a time...but if you start attacking them they are going to leave you dry. Stop swatting at flies.

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:30 am
by Cutpurse
Hey, Kefka.

Why don't you go back to that other shard that you were applying to be a GM on?

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:11 am
by Hicha
Derrick wrote:
ganzomanolo wrote:Now i demand why did the gm kicked me?
The character was kicked for packet flooding. I did everything I could to get your attention before doing this. The packet spam was without any delay and beyond reasonable. Had it been slower I'd have not gotten involved.
Quick question in regards to this; players who macro herding, musicianship, or snooping without delay would technically be packet flooding as well. Do you browse packet traffic to see which players are high on the list and deal with them, wait for other players to report them, or do you just happen to stumble upon them?

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:39 am
by Derrick
hiicha wrote:
Derrick wrote:
ganzomanolo wrote:Now i demand why did the gm kicked me?
The character was kicked for packet flooding. I did everything I could to get your attention before doing this. The packet spam was without any delay and beyond reasonable. Had it been slower I'd have not gotten involved.
Quick question in regards to this; players who macro herding, musicianship, or snooping without delay would technically be packet flooding as well. Do you browse packet traffic to see which players are high on the list and deal with them, wait for other players to report them, or do you just happen to stumble upon them?
This was certainly a judgement call, but most those actions that you were referring to do have an action delay of at least one second, and musicianship is only about a 10 byte packet. The speed at which this speech was being spammed was orders of magnitude greater. There should be a flood detector on speech, but there currently is not. Drawing attention to this issue prolly wasn't a good idea, so I'll likely have to get on a server side speech throttle right away.

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:24 pm
by valheru
Cutpurse wrote:Hey, Kefka.

Why don't you go back to that other shard that you were applying to be a GM on?

if you were smart enough to pick up on the history of that application, you would realize that it was a FAKE application and was complete satire. of course though, you failed to pick up on that. try not to comment on things that you know very little about.

the brief history is that, a particular shard was allowing players to have GM characters AND play on the shard with normal characters at the same time. I figured this opened the door for MASSIVE abuse, and advocated against it from day 1. I posted 3 other fake GM applications, all of which got deleted. The last one, while not obviously fake, I did state in the application "i do not believe that players should be allowed to have a GM Characters"

I was a known player, advocating against GM/player positions, applying for a GM position. Do you see the irony in it? It was a fake application to advocate a new rule that players shouldn't be allowed to also be GMs.

All that i stated above was fact. It's known that policies are made on the fly here. I'm not saying that it's WRONG to create new policies instantaneously, however, a GM explicitly told me that there were only certain areas where spamming was not allowed, and this was in high population areas such as brit bank. The boat spamming was MUCH less than that of the vesper spamming, and the vesper spamming was to a much higher degree. I didnt degrade anyone in my post, I just stated facts, and facts alone. If you don't like it, gfto, thanks.

Re: I have been kicked from a boat i was ghosting.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:48 pm
by Cutpurse
valheru wrote:
Cutpurse wrote:Hey, Kefka.

Why don't you go back to that other shard that you were applying to be a GM on?

if you were smart enough to pick up on the history of that application, you would realize that it was a FAKE application and was complete satire. of course though, you failed to pick up on that. try not to comment on things that you know very little about.

the brief history is that, a particular shard was allowing players to have GM characters AND play on the shard with normal characters at the same time. I figured this opened the door for MASSIVE abuse, and advocated against it from day 1. I posted 3 other fake GM applications, all of which got deleted. The last one, while not obviously fake, I did state in the application "i do not believe that players should be allowed to have a GM Characters"

I was a known player, advocating against GM/player positions, applying for a GM position. Do you see the irony in it? It was a fake application to advocate a new rule that players shouldn't be allowed to also be GMs.

All that i stated above was fact. It's known that policies are made on the fly here. I'm not saying that it's WRONG to create new policies instantaneously, however, a GM explicitly told me that there were only certain areas where spamming was not allowed, and this was in high population areas such as brit bank. The boat spamming was MUCH less than that of the vesper spamming, and the vesper spamming was to a much higher degree. I didnt degrade anyone in my post, I just stated facts, and facts alone. If you don't like it, gfto, thanks.

lol. In other words your application got rejected so now it was a joke? Riiiggghhhttttt.