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Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:57 pm
by Budner
Kaivan wrote:The answer is still the same as before: We will not be bringing the old event system back in any capacity. You'll find that position shared by all the staff members.
Let me be a little kid for a second .......... why?
Seriously. It is a time issue, or a era accuracy issue, or what?
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:08 pm
by Kaivan
Accuracy is the most major component of why the old event system won't come back. There was never a time during the era when players were transported to a little hermetically sealed environment where they could enjoy a part of the game without interference. Beyond that, there are various issues that have been brought up and have contributed to the opinions of different staff members. I'll let them speak on their opinions if they choose to.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:10 pm
by Ohm
Ohm wrote:So how about a new system?
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:10 pm
by Menkaure
Kaivan wrote:The answer is still the same as before: We will not be bringing the old event system back in any capacity. You'll find that position shared by all the staff members.
So all those things that were said in this thread by the gm were just bs?
Glad so many people took the time to answer them honestly and put thought into them.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:24 pm
by Bixby Legbone
Kaivan wrote:Accuracy is the most major component of why the old event system won't come back. There was never a time during the era when players were transported to a little hermetically sealed environment where they could enjoy a part of the game without interference. Beyond that, there are various issues that have been brought up and have contributed to the opinions of different staff members. I'll let them speak on their opinions if they choose to.
Please. I welcome all staff members to provide their opinion as to why the players of this shard can not have what they desire. Why, ultimately, is disagreeing with the populace a good thing for the health of this shard?
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:27 pm
by Kaivan
Menkaure wrote:Kaivan wrote:The answer is still the same as before: We will not be bringing the old event system back in any capacity. You'll find that position shared by all the staff members.
So all those things that were said in this thread by the gm were just bs?
Glad so many people took the time to answer them honestly and put thought into them.
I'm sorry that you feel that you were inconvenienced and wasted your time by answering a few questions, but we are under no obligation to decide the way you want us to simply because you answered some questions.
Bixby Legbone wrote:Kaivan wrote:Accuracy is the most major component of why the old event system won't come back. There was never a time during the era when players were transported to a little hermetically sealed environment where they could enjoy a part of the game without interference. Beyond that, there are various issues that have been brought up and have contributed to the opinions of different staff members. I'll let them speak on their opinions if they choose to.
Please. I welcome all staff members to provide their opinion as to why the players of this shard can not have what they desire. Why, ultimately, is disagreeing with the populace a good thing for the health of this shard?
I wasn't aware that popular opinion was more valued than accuracy.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:29 pm
by Ohm
*clears throat*
Ohm wrote:Ohm wrote:So how about a new system?
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:32 pm
by Teriyl
No worries Kaivan, pretty soon there won't be any populace to give a shit about accuracy or anything else.....stay tuned
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:36 pm
by Kaivan
Ohm wrote:*clears throat*
Ohm wrote:Ohm wrote:So how about a new system?
Since no concrete parameters have been given, I cannot rule out the possibility of some sort of new system. However, the feasibility of any such system is very low.
Teriyl wrote:No worries Kaivan, pretty soon there won't be any populace to give a shit about accuracy or anything else.....stay tuned
You're certainly entitled to your opinion on the subject.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:43 pm
by Teriyl
Noty opinion, just making an observation based on population numbers trending down.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:45 pm
by Kaivan
And it's your opinion that it's because of the lack of events.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:51 pm
by Teriyl
I don't care about events. ANYTHING to do on the server can't hurt at this point. It's just easier to be passive aggressive to the population on the forums though. Stay classy and accurate there bud.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:02 am
by Bixby Legbone
Kaivan wrote:And it's your opinion that it's because of the lack of events.
I don't know you. However, you're arguing with your player base in place of explaining why they cannot have what they want. There's many things that are NEA that are allowed (trophies, silver turn in system, Halloween trick-or-treating). Shard population is down. What's the solution?
Re: bring em back
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:14 am
by Kaivan
Teriyl wrote:I don't care about events. ANYTHING to do on the server can't hurt at this point. It's just easier to be passive aggressive to the population on the forums though. Stay classy and accurate there bud.
It isn't our responsibility to constantly deliver content for you to interact with. There's a lot out there you can do, and if you don't enjoy it, we can't be responsible for giving you something else to do.
Also, what I or any other GM decides spend time on while on UOSA is not beholden to your desires. If I choose to spend my time communicating on the forum, that is well within my purview to do, and the fact that I'm not spending the time putting together some event for you to do doesn't make it a waste of time, nor passive aggressive.
Bixby Legbone wrote:Kaivan wrote:And it's your opinion that it's because of the lack of events.
I don't know you. However, you're arguing with your player base in place of explaining why they cannot have what they want. There's many things that are NEA that are allowed (trophies, silver turn in system, Halloween trick-or-treating). Shard population is down. What's the solution?
First, I'm not arguing with the player base. I've already explained why we can't have it, and the examples you've given are not comparable to that explanation. Second, your implication is that our most important goal is shard population, and that the goal of mechanical accuracy comes second to that. In response, I refer you to
two posts made by Derrick on the subject. That should more than adequately respond to that question.
Re: bring em back
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:27 am
by Teriyl
I've said it in both posts and I don't know how many more ways I can say it so let me try to be perfectly clear....I do not give two shits about events or you or any other GM creating a fucking thing. I'm merely making an observation that the population is trending down, and that if it continues to trend the way it has, there won't be anyone left for you to make snyde comments to. So let's be accurate together till all that's left is vega talking to himself about how awesome and rich he is.
Let's review!
Does Teriyl care about events? - Fuck No!
Does Teriyl want Kaivan to do anything for him or the server? - Absolutely not!
I hope I made that clear enough this time, apparently I was vague before.