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Items get grandfathered in because they were obtained prior to an update making them unobtainable.Menkaure wrote: And don't use the grandfathered card, if that's the reason all this nea stuff is here then events shoulda been grandfathered in too because they were here before all of it.
Pac wrote:Items get grandfathered in because they were obtained prior to an update making them unobtainable.Menkaure wrote: And don't use the grandfathered card, if that's the reason all this nea stuff is here then events shoulda been grandfathered in too because they were here before all of it.
Game mechanics don't get grandfathered in because that's just silly. If that was the case this shard would never have a single update.
^Teriyl wrote:I just wanted to say thank you to Boomland for responding without being a complete asshole. Keep up the good work sir.
If you are referring to me, I would like to point out that when you reached out to me in December that I stated I personally would like to see the events, but my opinion does not (and never will) contradict the ultimate goal of the server. It's similar to Derrick stating a month or so ago that if he were a player that he would enjoy them, however the events as they were do not ultimately fit within our long held principles. I will quote myself from our PM just to reiterate myself for everyone else, my position is the same:Menkaure wrote:Ok Kaivan, we all know where you stand. You've never been a friendly
Gm, we get it, you want era accuracy and that's it.
The problem is, that gem encrusted liches aren't era accurate but allowed.
Dungeon crawls with tons of mobs aren't era accurate but allowed.
Trophies allowed, neon sandals exist, heck ice white cloth was just given out not long ago.
If you can evolve with these, why not other things?
And secondly, I'd LOVE to hear what the other gms think, cause, the ones I talked to seem to not have an issue with events coming back. So if they can answer with their opinion honestly without worrying to please you, or not say something that could be held against them, lets hear it.
I respect you Kaivan, you've always held your ground. The issue I have is that you come off as a power stricken tyrant at times instead of a gm of a player run/driven shard.
We are the ones who make this shard. I love Derrick for creating it, but without its players, this shard is nothing, so why not just once In a while instead of shooting it down, giving it a try?
I have openly shared my opinion on the matter with all staff as well.Anarcho wrote:The decision to not hold those events anymore was made long before I arrived in this position and they have their own good reasons for that which I cannot go against.
We do hear your concerns, we are trying to innovate ways to encourage and benefit player run tournaments and the like and hopefully we can get something out soon.
Just to summarise, I am here to help develop UOSA towards it's goals and ultimately Derrick's wishes, not come up with my own
Should definitely be taken down.HardCore wrote:http://my.uosecondage.com/Events/Schedule
Anarcho wrote:If you are referring to me, I would like to point out that when you reached out to me in December that I stated I personally would like to see the events, but my opinion does not (and never will) contradict the ultimate goal of the server. It's similar to Derrick stating a month or so ago that if he were a player that he would enjoy them, however the events as they were do not ultimately fit within our long held principles. I will quote myself from our PM just to reiterate myself for everyone else, my position is the same:Menkaure wrote:Ok Kaivan, we all know where you stand. You've never been a friendly
Gm, we get it, you want era accuracy and that's it.
The problem is, that gem encrusted liches aren't era accurate but allowed.
Dungeon crawls with tons of mobs aren't era accurate but allowed.
Trophies allowed, neon sandals exist, heck ice white cloth was just given out not long ago.
If you can evolve with these, why not other things?
And secondly, I'd LOVE to hear what the other gms think, cause, the ones I talked to seem to not have an issue with events coming back. So if they can answer with their opinion honestly without worrying to please you, or not say something that could be held against them, lets hear it.
I respect you Kaivan, you've always held your ground. The issue I have is that you come off as a power stricken tyrant at times instead of a gm of a player run/driven shard.
We are the ones who make this shard. I love Derrick for creating it, but without its players, this shard is nothing, so why not just once In a while instead of shooting it down, giving it a try?
I have openly shared my opinion on the matter with all staff as well.Anarcho wrote:The decision to not hold those events anymore was made long before I arrived in this position and they have their own good reasons for that which I cannot go against.
We do hear your concerns, we are trying to innovate ways to encourage and benefit player run tournaments and the like and hopefully we can get something out soon.
Just to summarise, I am here to help develop UOSA towards it's goals and ultimately Derrick's wishes, not come up with my own
Beyond that, it is pretty distasteful to take your lack of respect for our decision out upon Kaivan - the longest running, consistent, fair and knowledgable staff this shard has. I can understand being upset over this decision, but reacting so irrationally certainly isn't going to help your cause.
