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Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:22 pm
by Feldeath
I just started here a few days ago (longtime Great Lakes player 1998-2001) and the events were actually kind of a turnoff for me but I still wanted to see how the server compared to what I remembered. So far everything is great however I still cringe every time I see a server broadcast about events sometimes multiple times per day.
It seems to me that the events would mean a whole lot more if they were held less often so people looked forward to them and they would be an actual event with meaning. The Superbowl (insert any major event) wouldn't be as great if it were held daily or even weekly. People look forward to it and get hyped up for it and the viewership/turnout is very high.
I don't know this for a fact but it seems like many of the events are just used to get silver and many don't really care about them for any other reason (again I could be off base here).
As a new player here my opinion doesn't have much value but I still thought I would share. I applaud the efforts of the staff as this really is a great place to play.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:00 pm
by Psilo
Feldeath wrote:I just started here a few days ago (longtime Great Lakes player 1998-2001) and the events were actually kind of a turnoff for me but I still wanted to see how the server compared to what I remembered. So far everything is great however I still cringe every time I see a server broadcast about events sometimes multiple times per day.
It seems to me that the events would mean a whole lot more if they were held less often so people looked forward to them and they would be an actual event with meaning. The Superbowl (insert any major event) wouldn't be as great if it were held daily or even weekly. People look forward to it and get hyped up for it and the viewership/turnout is very high.
I don't know this for a fact but it seems like many of the events are just used to get silver and many don't really care about them for any other reason (again I could be off base here).
As a new player here my opinion doesn't have much value but I still thought I would share. I applaud the efforts of the staff as this really is a great place to play.
Exactly, your post says a lot. You represent exactly how a new player can perceive the events, as an instant turn off as you said. It was for me too when i started here almost a year ago.
Events still make me go *sigh* when I see them too.... I wish they were very rare like the Super Bowl, that's a good idea then people will not depend on them so much and will learn to love free-will UO again.
Btw welcome to the shard = )
***Edited rest of my post because it was flaming a bit, sorry in advance.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:14 pm
by BlackFoot
Psilo wrote:
Logging in to acquire material wealth like silver and neon hair is silly, you might as well go play WOW if you want matching shit in a carebear environment. And I am sure you'd get along with the WOW mentality too, that game is full of Egotistical dicks who can't accept other peoples views or opinions
You still cant see what you come across yet on these boards? after pages and pages of posts and comments like this?
Its hard to take anything you post seriously when you cap it off with complete trash like this.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:27 pm
by Psilo
BlackFoot wrote:Psilo wrote:
Logging in to acquire material wealth like silver and neon hair is silly, you might as well go play WOW if you want matching shit in a carebear environment. And I am sure you'd get along with the WOW mentality too, that game is full of Egotistical dicks who can't accept other peoples views or opinions
You still cant see what you come across yet on these boards? after pages and pages of posts and comments like this?
Its hard to take anything you post seriously when you cap it off with complete trash like this.
I don't see my post as shit talk, yes it's not the cleanest post but hell I've seen worse!
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:42 pm
by Sandro
Mirage wrote:This is the factor that everyone seems to keep forgetting when mentioning the "old feeling". When you refer to the UO you remember, when you refer to player ran events, etc. That was on an OSI shard. This is NOT an OSI shard. The mechanics are very similiar. Unfortunately, this shard doesn't have anywhere near the volume that OSI shards did. I would estimate that OSI shards around T2A era were at least 2-3k online at any given time. On here we have at most 500 clients on, and probably %50+ of them are multi-clients. The events gave people something to do on this shard when field pvp was inactive. It also kept a LOT of players active on this shard (the results speak for themselves). As sandro said events won't effect his playing time, only where he spends it. I feel this is the same feeling a decent amount of players have. If everyone remembers, this shard was at an active all-time high client wise when events were in full swing. I'd like to point out that events are shard policy, not part of game mechanics. When everyone decided to log onto this shard, they knew the policy of this shard and that it had player ran events. It is selfish, and irresponsible to STILL decide to play here and try to change our way of life on UOSA. It's unfair for veterans of the shard who have used their time investing in UOSA, for it to be changed because a new comer decided that he doesn't like our shard policy. If you've decided to play here you knew what our shard was about, everything is well documented, the policy is clear, and the event schedule was listed on the site prior to you logging in here.
Edit: BTW God Bless the United States of America!
great post
yeah i remember when we hit 827 online, more than Hybrid by over 30+ clients..
too bad they cut back events..

Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:30 pm
by BlackFoot
These are reasonable arguments by Psilo regarding other 'inaccuracies', so they shoudl be reasonable quality arguments here
Psilo wrote:Manowar wrote:Removing events will be bad for this shard, plain and simple. Let the population grow a bit and then revisit it... but now is not the time.
This is a good point, I don't think we should be so quick to banish this especially right now. Our shard seems to have been growing the past few weeks maybe because of the patch, maybe because of my and others advertising around the web:
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/3792 ... -free.html
Derrick, I sincerely believe we need to focus on other things that effect large amounts of our players like PVP mechanics. We need to focus on making sure insta-hit works next patch.
Removing
events can wait, or not happen at all. Please!
Psilo wrote:
If we want this shard to continue to grow and succeed I believe we're going to need to be careful what we change for Era Accuracy.
I am all for era accuracy, and want everything else accurate. I don't think minor changes that negatively affect the community and game immersion in such a substantial way is a good idea. Accurate or not, if this change goes through this will be the next thing to chop the community in half
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:05 am
by klep
We should create an Arena, and every night at 10pm eastern standard time. GMs randomly pluck 4+ people from the world and kill them with like spawn monsters in aforementioned arena, start out small with like headless/dire wolves last one standing gets free porn.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:07 am
by Populus
klep wrote:We should create an Arena, and every night at 10pm eastern standard time. GMs randomly pluck 4+ people from the world and kill them with like spawn monsters in aforementioned arena, start out small with like headless/dire wolves last one standing gets free porn.
I can't tell if you are serious or not. So imagine me giving you the finger.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:14 am
by fox_phyre
Populus wrote:klep wrote:We should create an Arena, and every night at 10pm eastern standard time. GMs randomly pluck 4+ people from the world and kill them with like spawn monsters in aforementioned arena, start out small with like headless/dire wolves last one standing gets free porn.
I can't tell if you are serious or not. So imagine me giving you the finger.
+1 populus, the l33t sandro slayer
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:08 pm
by chadt3a
Seems to me the people that are pissing and moaning about events are the same people that have no chance in hell at winning a 1v1/2v2/3v3. I'm sensing some jealousy.
They're are lots of people that have lives and work full-time jobs. Knowing when to log in for guaranteed pvps is awesome.
If you don't like the events don't participate, but please don't piss and moan and ruin it for those of us that do enjoy them.
Also its 2010, this game is over a decade old, why the fuck would anyone in their right mind want to take the time to host their own tourney that is inevitably going to turn into a grief fest shit storm? Some of us enjoy organization, we aren't little kids anymore with hour upon hours to dedicate to this game.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:02 pm
by Psilo
Seems to me the people that are pissing and moaning about events are the same people that have no chance in hell at winning a 1v1/2v2/3v3. I'm sensing some jealousy.
This is not true at all lol. Many of us still enjoy the random adventure in UO. Maybe you're just bitter in your adult age and don't know how to have fun anymore? Automated events are against everything UO stands for. Look at the MMORPG market, lol. Let's not be like them, take instance and safe/thief free zones out....
Also its 2010, this game is over a decade old, why the fuck would anyone in their right mind want to take the time to host their own tourney that is inevitably going to turn into a grief fest shit storm? .
Who cares how old the game is, it's still fun for many of us. The people who play the in Brittania outnumber the minority who just log on for instanced events.
Go play WOW if you want a game where you farm "points"(silver) for colorful armor(neon sandals/hair/special dye) in a carebear instanced environment(event zones) with restricted pvp(can't attack team mates or heal enemies). That's not UO at all.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:14 pm
by BlackFoot
Hard to grasp for you that people may like palying events because they are super fun. Its also hard for you to understand that you can still enjoy 'radnom typical uo adventure' and enjoy events. Heaven forbid you enjoy both.
How many times are you going to bring up these mythical 'players who only log in for events then log out and never go into the real world'. These players dont exist and you seem to use them in every single post you make.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:18 pm
by Psilo
Hard to grasp for you that people may like palying events because they are super fun. Its also hard for you to understand that you can still enjoy 'radnom typical uo adventure' and enjoy events. Heaven forbid you enjoy both.
I realize both of these.
I play events too, but I never stress over them not being in ABUNDANCE. I am so glad there's fewer, it's really helping. I never look at when a event begins, I join it if I see the message.
How many times are you going to bring up these mythical 'players who only log in for events then log out and never go into the real world'. These players dont exist and you seem to use them in every single post you make.
They do exist, they play events 80% of the time and UO 20%.
That's just not good enough, I say make events only once a month and make them feel more special. Allow players to buy any era accurate thing with gold as a goldsink.
Then these players who care about CBD/neon hair will be playing in Brittania 80% of the time instead of just events because they will be farming gold and playing UO to get these prizes.
I think we need to add more catering to the crowd who likes clothing bless deeds, neon hair ect. This should be able to be gotten by gold...who can complain?
More people playing in-game aquiring what they want whether it be pvp or CBD gotten by gold. Everyone would be happy.
I hate how events seperate the population in the literal sense.
There's the "tournament crowd" then there's the UO players. They don't even get along.
I respect TG way more than the l33t top pvpers even though they run. Running never hurt the game as much as people who don't log in at all unless there's a trammel event going on.
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:49 pm
by Sandro
chadt3a wrote:Seems to me the people that are pissing and moaning about events are the same people that have no chance in hell at winning a 1v1/2v2/3v3. I'm sensing some jealousy.
They're are lots of people that have lives and work full-time jobs. Knowing when to log in for guaranteed pvps is awesome.
If you don't like the events don't participate, but please don't piss and moan and ruin it for those of us that do enjoy them.
Also its 2010, this game is over a decade old, why the fuck would anyone in their right mind want to take the time to host their own tourney that is inevitably going to turn into a grief fest shit storm? Some of us enjoy organization, we aren't little kids anymore with hour upon hours to dedicate to this game.
great post
+1 for events
Re: taking away something players enjoyed?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:22 pm
by Mirage
Psilo wrote:Hard to grasp for you that people may like palying events because they are super fun. Its also hard for you to understand that you can still enjoy 'radnom typical uo adventure' and enjoy events. Heaven forbid you enjoy both.
I realize both of these.
I play events too, but I never stress over them not being in ABUNDANCE. I am so glad there's fewer, it's really helping. I never look at when a event begins, I join it if I see the message.
How many times are you going to bring up these mythical 'players who only log in for events then log out and never go into the real world'. These players dont exist and you seem to use them in every single post you make.
They do exist, they play events 80% of the time and UO 20%.
That's just not good enough, I say make events only once a month and make them feel more special. Allow players to buy any era accurate thing with gold as a goldsink.
Then these players who care about CBD/neon hair will be playing in Brittania 80% of the time instead of just events because they will be farming gold and playing UO to get these prizes.
I think we need to add more catering to the crowd who likes clothing bless deeds, neon hair ect. This should be able to be gotten by gold...who can complain?
More people playing in-game aquiring what they want whether it be pvp or CBD gotten by gold. Everyone would be happy.
I hate how events seperate the population in the literal sense.
There's the "tournament crowd" then there's the UO players. They don't even get along.
I respect TG way more than the l33t top pvpers even though they run. Running never hurt the game as much as people who don't log in at all unless there's a trammel event going on.
This is the typical argument you hear from people and simply it's just not true. I log on whenever I have time to log on, if it's during event time, then so be it, if not then I field.....and that is what the majority of the shard does. NOW with that being said, I do however make an effort to log on if I know in advance that there is an event at a certain time. Not only do I log in at a time that I may not have even logged on at, I 99% of the time wind up playing outside of the events immediately after/before. This is a perfect example of a population bump, and what we're missing to get us over the top to a substantial population. I don't recognize your name, so I'm taking a guess that you're fairly new here. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm wondering why you decided to start playing here if you already knew that WE (UOSA) held automated events? And after you started playing here, where did you get the audacity to try and change our shard? I think a lot of people have to ask themselves those two questions before they start screaming take events out etc. etc. The even schedule should stay the same unless a majority vote is in favor to change/remove it since it was in place when we all first signed up here.
Again I'd like to ask all people who are trying to change our way of life on UOSA to ask themselves these two questions.
1. I'm wondering why you decided to start playing here if you already knew that WE (UOSA) held automated events?
2. After you started playing here, where did you get the audacity to try and change our shard?
Let's stick to the old mantra, if it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!!!!!