Blue Pker

[Shaco]

sometimes when i'm playing UO i get new items, and then i have new items. and then sometimes when i have items, i die and i don't have any items, and then i get new items so that i can have items again.

when you die to a pker, EVEN IF HE IS BLUE (that is important), this trick still works. you can still get new items, so that you have items again even if the pker was not red when he looted you.

i have tested this b4 its 100%. i recommend to you, after you lose items, get new ones

[Geordi La Forge]

sometimes when i'm playing UO i get new items, and then i have new items. and then sometimes when i have items, i die and i don't have any items, and then i get new items so that i can have items again.

when you die to a pker, EVEN IF HE IS BLUE (that is important), this trick still works. you can still get new items, so that you have items again even if the pker was not red when he looted you.

i have tested this b4 its 100%. i recommend to you, after you lose items, get new ones

Replicators really are great, LOL!

[Ro Laren]

Replicators really are great, LOL!

Remember that time when they thought you and I were dead but we were really running around the Enterprise and the Romulan ship invisible? It was crazy seeing our own funerals LOL. Hi Geordi.

[Geordi La Forge]

Replicators really are great, LOL!

Remember that time when they thought you and I were dead but we were really running around the Enterprise and the Romulan ship invisible? It was crazy seeing our own funerals LOL. Hi Geordi.

No, LOL!

I don't remember you being on the crew at all! JK, LOL!

That was great when we scared the shit out of Worf--right in the middle of Picard's bombastic speech--when Worf was getting all sad and shit, LOL!

[Worf]

Replicators really are great, LOL!

Remember that time when they thought you and I were dead but we were really running around the Enterprise and the Romulan ship invisible? It was crazy seeing our own funerals LOL. Hi Geordi.

No, LOL!

I don't remember you being on the crew at all! JK, LOL!

That was great when we scared the shit out of Worf--right in the middle of Picard's bombastic speech--when Worf was getting all sad and shit, LOL!

I greatly disliked this. There were many other options that could have been pursued.

[pm_lamont]

SighelmofWyrmgard, you haven't bothered to address any arguement brought against you at all. You dismiss any objection to your idea with a personal attack, declaring anyone who disagrees with you master manipulators and then become a facsimile of excatly what you accuse others of being. Avoiding content of any kind and filling the pages of this post with superfluous nonsense.

That said, this shard as a sort of constitution, which garauntees that ideas like yours, which are nonexistant in era, and wildly unpopular will not be introduced. On that thought alone, we can cease this "arguement" once and for all. Hows that for avoiding obfuscation.

If you have any questions, bring yourself to the main page and read the founders words on what this shard is all about. Recreating the t2a era as accurately as possible. As he has shown no regard for mechanics vs. era, so you are fighting a lost battle.

Here is a simple tip to rid the shard of blue pks. If a player is blue, and kills you, report for murder. If a player is red, and kills you, don't report them for murder. These two simple rules ensure that a ping pong between red and blue are constantly taking place, and garauntees they will be perma red. Fact is, this is as far as the era will allow us to take action. There is no way anyone will consent, nor agree to a shard wipe, which is essentially the only way we will end up with 1 account each.

[SighelmofWyrmgard]

Hey Lamont,

Get your facts straight and you won't be a hypocrite: on accuse s'accuse; n'est-ce pas?

The only accusations I've launched are against obfuscation through logical fallacy, identifying the only possible gain as personal exploitation of shard mechanics: the manifestations have been cited.

Now, as for your post,

SighelmofWyrmgard, you haven't bothered to address any arguement brought against you at all.

This is a bald-faced lie; QED.

You dismiss any objection to your idea with a personal attack, declaring anyone who disagrees with you master manipulators and then become a facsimile of excatly what you accuse others of being. Avoiding content of any kind and filling the pages of this post with superfluous nonsense.

This is the mirror to your mind, since your accusations are not only unproven, but entirely unfounded.

That said, this shard as a sort of constitution, which garauntees that ideas like yours, which are nonexistant in era, and wildly unpopular will not be introduced.

The idea is exactly, precisely, as non-existent-in-era as free multi-clienting: this has already been pointed out; reading comprehension is your friend. Neither can you sustain the misrepresentation that this as "wildly unpopular": a vote in another thread clearly refutes this.

If you have any questions, bring yourself to the main page and read the founders words on what this shard is all about. Recreating the t2a era as accurately as possible. As he has shown no regard for mechanics vs. era, so you are fighting a lost battle.

See above: the point in contestation is not era-accurate. Apparently, you think saying the same incorrect thing more than once makes it correct: this logical fallacy is known as, "tautology".

These two simple rules ensure that a ping pong between red and blue are constantly taking place, and garauntees they will be perma red.

This is idiotic nonsense: one who never turns red at all never starts a ping-pong in the first place; this statement is so incomprehensibly fail, it's like Cartman at the Special Olympics. If you insist on mixing Crack with Crystal-Meth, don't do it while posting on these forums.

Unfortunately, a demonstration seems to be required. So that there is no confusion in the future, a personal attack would not run something like this, as these all constitute statements of fact,

dear pm-lamont,

• your spelling and grammar are atrocious, and your command of syntax leaves much to be desired;
• you can't debate yourself out of a soiled, wet paper bag;
• you make assertions that are nothing more than extremely stupid;
• you have made of yourself a hypocrite by viciously attacking another with empty accusations.

On the contrary, a personal attack would present itself much like this,

dear pm-lamont,

you desperately need to commission the following advertisement:

For Sale by original owner:

• 1 Human Brain
• Never been Used
• Still in Original Packaging.

I'm sure even you can see the difference. I so dearly hope I've addressed your "arguements" [sic].

SS

[Geordi La Forge]

dear pm-lamont,

you desperately need to commission the following advertisement:

For Sale by original owner:

• 1 Human Brain
• Never been Used
• Still in Original Packaging.

I'm sure even you can see the difference. I so dearly hope I've addressed your "arguements" [sic].

SS

Well played and beautifully constructed logic salesman. LOL!

[Panthor the Hated]

Griefing is a major part of UO, always has been.

Blue PKing is a form of grief and/or opportunism. It's very accurate and will never be removed from the game.

Instead of flaming people about it, just learn to deal with it.

I call End of Thread.

[BobDobbs]

Dungeon Guards are handling the "problem" of PKs quite well without any change of mechanics or rules.

[MatronDeWinter]

I am all for blue PK'ing et al. The only thing that makes this function inaccurate to OSI is the fact that everyone here has (at least) 15 characters. Too easy to make characters, too many characters, and so, you just don't hold the same sense of identity and personal responsability that we experienced on production shards.

[kwhiz73]

That's a great point Matron. Still being relatively new to this shard and just getting started, if there is one negative, it's the fact that 15 characters completely destroy's a big part of the social structure that UO once employed. There is no accountability whatsoever. I wouldn't hazard a guess at the percentages, but I'd be willing to bet that those that ran multiple accounts when I played back in the day were an extreme rarity. It's a bit much to see that every other house is completely empty, to see someone gating their own ghost back to town after looting it with another character, or to simply have no idea who's really who at any given time.

I'm having a blast on this server and love the feel, but many of the complaints and problems I've read on the forums directly or indirectly relate to the 15 character account limit. I could be convinced otherwise if someone had a good case of how this is era accurate.

[MatronDeWinter]

Many people swear up and down they had 500 accounts during T2A, sold gold on ebay....

The contributing problem to this is the ease of skill gain. It's higher than most free-shards here, but it is in no way comparable to OSI's. Crafting skills seem a tad bit fast, magery is fast, resist is really fast, and weapon skills are way too fast. It's entirely too easy to just make a completely new 7xgm character in 3-4 days.

Even with constant macroing back in T2A, GM resist was a long-term goal. You only kid yourself if you think people were not as smart back then.

[Mikel123]

magery is fast, resist is really fast, and weapon skills are way too fast. It's entirely too easy to just make a completely new 7xgm character in 3-4 days.

Even with constant macroing back in T2A, GM resist was a long-term goal. You only kid yourself if you think people were not as smart back then.

So, there is a thread here in which we compare gains on this shard to gains on UO from "Blade's Resist Chart" in which he carefully documented his gains per cast. It turns out, gains here in Resist take substantially more casts than they did back in 1999. I think it takes us something like 25% more casts per gain than it took Blade in 1999... and he wasn't even a GM mage, so he was likely fizzling more than people here do, since they typically GM magery before they decide to try to GM resist.

The more I think about it, the more I think the explanation for differences here (in skill gain, farming ability, etc.) come down to death being less frequent and less of a big deal here. Less of a big deal because of alts looting, gating people out, etc. (remember how long it took to find a damn wandering healer?!?!). And less frequent because of our advanced knowledge, and more importantly, server stability. We forget how often OSI crashed or disconnected us, only to find ourselves dead when we log back on. Additionally, lag was a huge problem. I usually ping 25 to 45 to UOSA. Back on OSI, I pinged 250 at some point, and found it to be tricky, but playable. The other night, I was pinging 100 to UOSA and I was freaking out. There was a noticeable pause when changing areas, for example. I had two drakes on me in Destard before I even knew I was in there. And this is with a 100 ping, which would have been godly in 1999.

Anyways, I think skill gain here is actually pretty accurate. We're just much wealthier and we have Razor to train with.

[BobDobbs]

Razor is far more era inaccurate than multi clienting.