UOSA Tournament System

[Abyz]

Did staff on each OSI server during the old days never host an event? Of course not. Were the mechanics uniform across the shards? Yes...

The mechanics of UOSA must be era accurate. I 100% support this goal for our server. BUT, the UOSA server can have it's own unique features. Having neat automated events from time to time in no way takes away from the spirit of era accuracy.

There is just no good reason for shunning events. It doesn't hurt anyone not wanting to be involved in them. All it would do is ADD to the fun and richness of UOSA.

[Jayrich]

the reason the events were taken out as i recall was due to an exploit people were abusing...

if you were a stat red and signed up for the events and then went out on the field to pvp. you could die and stay a ghost without hitting ok to rez ... when the events started and summoned you to your fight in the tournament you were rezzed with no stat loss. also i think during this time whatever loot you had before you had died was replaced on your body.


so some pvpers had found this out and not only were they getting out of rezzing from stat loss but also quite possibly duping good pvp weapons

thats pretty game breaking if you ask me.

[Menkaure]

the reason the events were taken out as i recall was due to an exploit people were abusing...

if you were a stat red and signed up for the events and then went out on the field to pvp. you could die and stay a ghost without hitting ok to rez ... when the events started and summoned you to your fight in the tournament you were rezzed with no stat loss. also i think during this time whatever loot you had before you had died was replaced on your body.


so some pvpers had found this out and not only were they getting out of rezzing from stat loss but also quite possibly duping good pvp weapons

thats pretty game breaking if you ask me.

There's a simple fix to this.
Only blue players can join events.

[corruption42]

the reason the events were taken out as i recall was due to an exploit people were abusing...

if you were a stat red and signed up for the events and then went out on the field to pvp. you could die and stay a ghost without hitting ok to rez ... when the events started and summoned you to your fight in the tournament you were rezzed with no stat loss. also i think during this time whatever loot you had before you had died was replaced on your body.


so some pvpers had found this out and not only were they getting out of rezzing from stat loss but also quite possibly duping good pvp weapons

thats pretty game breaking if you ask me.

There's a simple fix to this.
Only blue players can join events.

That still wouldn't eliminate potential point #2 of Jayrich's -- if a ghosted char is rez'd with whatever he had on him again, blues could just as easily potentially be duping weapons... assuming that what he implies is actually the case. I'm uncertain if it actually occurred that way; but if it did that would be reason enough to justify not having them (at least without a fix) IMO.

[Jayrich]

i think derrick is a good enough coder to fix this i think more then anything he was just annoyed that this bug had been abused for so long with no reporting that he chose to not reinstate the events also due to alot of people complaining about them.

during this era of removal different people had campaigned to had them removed including some nefarious fellows who had gates from britian to death traps that were over the event gates

[Menkaure]

the reason the events were taken out as i recall was due to an exploit people were abusing...

if you were a stat red and signed up for the events and then went out on the field to pvp. you could die and stay a ghost without hitting ok to rez ... when the events started and summoned you to your fight in the tournament you were rezzed with no stat loss. also i think during this time whatever loot you had before you had died was replaced on your body.


so some pvpers had found this out and not only were they getting out of rezzing from stat loss but also quite possibly duping good pvp weapons

thats pretty game breaking if you ask

There's a simple fix to this.
Only blue players can join events.

That still wouldn't eliminate potential point #2 of Jayrich's -- if a ghosted char is rez'd with whatever he had on him again, blues could just as easily potentially be duping weapons... assuming that what he implies is actually the case. I'm uncertain if it actually occurred that way; but if it did that would be reason enough to justify not having them (at least without a fix) IMO.

Another simple fix. You must be blue and alive to join.

[Jayrich]

not to be a dick but menakure can you code ?

because i doubt that this is just a simple fix. this server is hosted by derrick he pays most of the bills for it. sure some donators help him out but still im sure every month he is putting some of his own hard earned money out there so that we can all enjoy it. but its not his job to fix things , or make it just the way you want. he does this as a hobby he has a real job and this is not it.

i doubt that you would want to spend alot of time because someone you never met someone who you only even talk to is when someone has a bad day and nerd rages out. plain in simply enjoy the shard as it is dont try and tell him to fix it to suit you. its his server he owes nothing to you .

[Abyz]

Wow! He can fix it when he gets around to it... that'd be fine with us.

[Blaise]

Most simple fix: Players playing the game with the tools available.

[Menkaure]

not to be a dick but menakure can you code ?

because i doubt that this is just a simple fix. this server is hosted by derrick he pays most of the bills for it. sure some donators help him out but still im sure every month he is putting some of his own hard earned money out there so that we can all enjoy it. but its not his job to fix things , or make it just the way you want. he does this as a hobby he has a real job and this is not it.

i doubt that you would want to spend alot of time because someone you never met someone who you only even talk to is when someone has a bad day and nerd rages out. plain in simply enjoy the shard as it is dont try and tell him to fix it to suit you. its his server he owes nothing to you .

First of all, no offense taken. I understand what your saying. With that said, this is just a "discussion thread" and all I'm doing is discussing. I appreciate all that Derrick, and the others have done, and in all honesty, meant no disrespect by calling the fixes "simple." I did, however, try to explain, that instead of working on some anti duping when resd code or stat loss bug fix, that maybe its possible to just add 2 stipulations, that could make it the same as banking in a major and guarded city. To bank, you must be blue, and you must be alive, right? So couldn't they just make that code the same as the server event ones? Again, maybe its extremely hard, and a pain in the ass, and if so, fine, so be it.
But if this thread is the subject of server events, well then I will do or say anything I can that could persuade Derrick to bring them back, including offering my humble opinion.
Also, speaking of donations. Derrick, if you ever read this, is it possible that maybe if we had a "server event fund raiser" and had a goal of say $500, you would bring them back? Again, its just a thought. But, I promise I would donate a decent amount to bring these back.

Excuse typos. Doing this from my phone.

[Scienter]

Firstly Kaivan and Derrick I love you.

Abyz the event exploit was stat reds joining events as ghosts and ressing with no penalty. There were also complaints about players opening gates marked on the same gate tiles as tournament gates, giving players running through a 50% chance of going to the event, and 50% chance of going to a balron trap.

We should all listen to Abyz, more than most people, remember he has given countless hours of his time getting player events going.

There are a number of factors that could contribute to our success, including a few major shards going down besides us.

Bringing back events is worth a go at least - perhaps we'd attract and maintain an even larger player base and even more active shard.

I think Derrick's previous views on events are ideal. Even as Kaivan is now saying events won't come back - I've seen Derrick posting that they won't be going anywhere, either (back when they were running).

One tournament a week is not over the top or counter-productive to the shard's goals. Prizes are not necessary, but an official tourney / ranking system would be great. Bringing back events, but only bringing back one or an extremely limited amount, is a compromise - the player's stop their bitchin' and complaining, and the GM's give us a single weekly tournament to quiet the cries and complaints that have been a big topic on forums and IRC since events were removed.

You can't under any circumstance join an event as a ghost. You had to be alive to double click the book.

[[Uhh] Eo]

You can join when you're pulled automatically though!

PS. Blaise, read your own posts please, and thank you for proving me right.

[Scienter]

Nah bro. The only way you can sign up for event is to double click the book. You have to be alive to do that. If you double click the book, sign up for the event, go kill yourself, you would res with everything on your corpse when the event pulled your character and started. So if someone drops 10k on your head. You can join an event, kill yourself and have the event res you.

Best way to handle that is to make the event a one way street. Once you're in the event room, you can't leave until after the event.

[Guerrilla]

I personally would love for the automated events to return....
I also know of people who volunteered to code the fix for the stat avoidance bug. Don't think they were ever given the chance to contribute, but it's definitely better than complaining. It's 2013, bring em back man...

[Loathed]

they ain't coming back- and I'm fine with it either way. maybe you can change the devs' minds by deleting your gf blessed items. =)