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Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:38 pm
by Faust
The UO Demo has no stables nor does it have any wild horses running about while you're stuck at Ocllo. There is no possible way to get a horse on there. Mounted horses has existed since alpha testing in UO. I have no idea where you came up with that notion.
Here is a patch note from the very first patch to Ultima Online involving mounts. This was the same day that Ultima Online went live on September 25th, 1997.
9/25/1997
Horses that run out of loyalty now buck you off and run away.
A skill delay in terms of UO coding is a delay that applies after using an action. "You must wait to perform another action." as an example of a skill delay. There is also a skill delay by default on tabbing. It is the same or relatively close to what auto defend is after being attacked.
I get that reputation because I'm right and I don't hide it. It has nothing to do with credibility.
I really don't care if you believe me or not. I would take real code that OSI used for UO over a stratics web site anyday. I'm sorry if you prefer the ladder, but you can continue believing whatever you want in regard to the spell timers. I'm sure you'll be the only one in that group.
You dont need to lecture me on the UO Demo and live shards. I understand the concept of how the demo relates to the actual code that EA used and it is one in the same. It seems that you don't quite understand how compiling code works, especially in this instance.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:54 pm
by Ezp
kill drizitz wrote:does the demo even have mounts? back when 2nd age first came out i dont think mounts were in place yet. you see, there are many differences in demo/osi live shards.
Are you saying there wasn't mounts until t2a came out? If so there was mounts pre-t2a. Its just no one used them coz everyone was 56k and could run just as fast on a mount as on foot. Mounts were in place way before t2a

Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:13 pm
by Mirage
platy wrote:If I actually tried to show a duel i'd post it as such..
instead i recorded and posted to show those who don't know what people are doing exactly how it looks..
you seem to have some serious testosterone problems.. get off the roids and use your peanut brain.. I didn't post it to show a fight,I posted it to show what some people think about the loophole and what it's doing to pvp..
your such a tool it's preventing you from being a contributor.. stay in the trashtalk forums where you belong
You're the one who rage posts paragraph long essays of personal attacks, not me. Do you even play? I've never seen you in game besides the one time at bucs. Legit question.
kill drizitz wrote: does the demo even have mounts? back when 2nd age first came out i dont think mounts were in place yet. you see, there are many differences in demo/osi live shards.
Honestly I am mad. I'm mad you said that there were not any mounts in place for the beginning of T2A, and you're giving input on this topic. I thought you put your foot in your mouth and retired from this post after that, I guess not.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:21 am
by LudKrud
Faust wrote:The UO Demo has no stables nor does it have any wild horses running about while you're stuck at Ocllo. There is no possible way to get a horse on there. Mounted horses has existed since alpha testing in UO. I have no idea where you came up with that notion.
Here is a patch note from the very first patch to Ultima Online involving mounts. This was the same day that Ultima Online went live on September 25th, 1997.
9/25/1997
Horses that run out of loyalty now buck you off and run away.
A skill delay in terms of UO coding is a delay that applies after using an action. "You must wait to perform another action." as an example of a skill delay. There is also a skill delay by default on tabbing. It is the same or relatively close to what auto defend is after being attacked.
I get that reputation because I'm right and I don't hide it. It has nothing to do with credibility.
I really don't care if you believe me or not. I would take real code that OSI used for UO over a stratics web site anyday. I'm sorry if you prefer the ladder, but you can continue believing whatever you want in regard to the spell timers. I'm sure you'll be the only one in that group.
You dont need to lecture me on the UO Demo and live shards. I understand the concept of how the demo relates to the actual code that EA used and it is one in the same. It seems that you don't quite understand how compiling code works, especially in this instance.
HA!!
They need to re-implement the horses bucking people off......
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:58 am
by Mazer
Mirage wrote:kill drizitz wrote: does the demo even have mounts? back when 2nd age first came out i dont think mounts were in place yet. you see, there are many differences in demo/osi live shards.
Your credibility just went down the toilet.
Crash and burn.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:46 pm
by bigcheez
Mazer wrote:It's a shame that Razor isn't open source. Zippy modified Razor for Divinity to disallow stuff like the light filter, auto-open doors, smart targetting, etc. and made it feel a bit more 'classic'.
anyone can do this
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:01 pm
by Faust
"Anyone" can if they have the source code, but unfortunately the source code isn't accessible unless you're associated with RunUO. It is illegal to decompile the program, and even at that it would only be assembly code. You would still theoretically have to build the project from scratch with a guide if you manage to take the time to put it all together to make a blueprint. Doing something like this is not an easy task at all. If it was easy people would have already done it, and from what I'm aware of it hasn't happened yet.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:11 pm
by Hemperor
I'm glad no one has the source to razor otherwise you would see things like "Auto-Loot corpse" and shit like that coming up.
I would love to see no light filters, auto door opening, scavenger...would give it a MUCH more classic feel to it.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:29 pm
by Faust
My initial idea involved developing one that would only work for UOSA. By doing this you could alter the program with an encrypted authentication process for that particular razor, which would mean no other version could be compatible with the server. This would mean you could tailor the only working version for the server to suit the needs that only existed during that time. The downside for this is that it would cause people that don't use razor problems by not allowing them to play. Hackers would have a field day trying to break through the system though.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:39 pm
by Slade
lol @ the idea of installing a program authored by Faust on anyone's computer.
Save him the time and just hand over your bank information and identity documents now.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:51 pm
by Faust
Slade when you actually understand the topic of what I said please leave your opinion. You obviously have no idea about anything vaguely surrounding this discussion. Do you realize you're connecting to a server that I code for?
All we would be doing is revising RAZOR to remove current functions such as attack last, auto unequipping upon cast, etc... to be more in line with the 3rd party apps that were used back in the day. The only way not to allow other razor versions to connect to the server would be to use an encrypted communication system upon logging in so those versions wouldn't be able to be used. It would be the SAME thing you're using now minus the ADVANCED technology in the 3rd party app... It doesn't matter though because it won't ever happen. We don't have the source to Razor.
If I really wanted to check out what variety of porn you're downloading I would simply ask.
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:30 pm
by BlackFoot
putting those changes to everyones razor woudl be amazing...
get it really hwo it was exactly lol
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:01 pm
by platy
After talking to Faust I'm sure this guy is wrong...[thinks GMs can't fix it]
BUT check out what some people on this shard think about auto-tabbing:
http://www.uomovies.com/download.pl?id=2831
Some people just need to get skill and stop relying on loopholes
Check out my 10hp explosions and hally hits
heh
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:47 pm
by Mirage
I don't get it, you posted a video of yourself getting worked in deceit?
Re: Do something about this autotabbing bullshit
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:07 pm
by platy
If I actually tried to show a duel i'd post it as such..
instead i recorded and posted to show those who don't know what people are doing exactly how it looks..
you seem to have some serious testosterone problems.. get off the roids and use your peanut brain.. I didn't post it to show a fight, I posted it to show what some people think about the loophole and what it's doing to pvp..
your such a tool it's preventing you from being a contributor.. stay in the trashtalk forums where you belong