UO Second Age

Hemperor wrote: well im in that boat.. never turned in trophies, have sold a couple, most trophies i have owned have been from trades or idocs... all of which i have sold for gold.

I have probably had a total of 15-20 points in my possesion here in 10 months.

Your decision to sell your trophies doesn't mean that you never acquired any or you're not wealthy.

EDIT: Sorry hemp I meant to quote Hoots.

way to quote me on something I never said.

Mirage wrote:

Hemperor wrote: well im in that boat.. never turned in trophies, have sold a couple, most trophies i have owned have been from trades or idocs... all of which i have sold for gold.

I have probably had a total of 15-20 points in my possesion here in 10 months.

Your decision to sell your trophies doesn't mean that you never acquired any or you're not wealthy.

EDIT: Sorry hemp I meant to quote Hoots.

I Punt... of course im wealthy in being that i have nearly 15 chars developed, have housing and supplies for all my char... do i have millions in the bank? far from it... Anyone here for multiple months should be "wealthy"

You are accusing those of us who are against freebie handouts of beeing trophy or reward horders.

I dont know how to make this any more clear.

I have never turned in trophies
I have never purchased or traded for a reward from the trophy system
In 10 months of being here i have probably owned a total of less than 20 trophies which have all been sold at the going rate of the time.. Most were from Idocs and accepting them in trade with a couple from winning events.

The more i see people act like they are entitled to these the more im in favor of someone taking a hard stance on these being 100% non era accurate.

Why can't we police afker/multiclienters I mean just about everything anyone has ever done on uosa has someone saying it in irc or posting it on the forums? Record an rpv for 15 seconds if they don't move theyre afk etc.


obviously it'd have to be pretty objective and require more then one source of evidence

Using the 'you have gotten stuff, now let other people get stuff' should not be even rometely considered in any arguement having to do with bettering UOSA. It is basically the card people pull up when they cant think of anything productive to add.
If people followed this chain of reasoning ingots would still cost 5gp on npcs so people could all gm their smiths for free cause a few people did at the start. You would still be able to gm resist in the safety of town. Every player that logged in should automatically get every single holiday prize immediately added to their bag that has ever happened, it wasnt their fault they werent here.
If you seriously think this is a real arguement and treated it as such no progress would ever be made.
Please stop using it as an arguement.
Its about bettering UOSA, not about making everything super fair forever for everyone.

BlackFoot wrote:Using the 'you have gotten stuff, now let other people get stuff' should not be even rometely considered in any arguement having to do with bettering UOSA. It is basically the card people pull up when they cant think of anything productive to add.
If people followed this chain of reasoning ingots would still cost 5gp on npcs so people could all gm their smiths for free cause a few people did at the start. You would still be able to gm resist in the safety of town. Every player that logged in should automatically get every single holiday prize immediately added to their bag that has ever happened, it wasnt their fault they werent here.
If you seriously think this is a real arguement and treated it as such no progress would ever be made.
Please stop using it as an arguement.
Its about bettering UOSA, not about making everything super fair forever for everyone.

With this being said, let's close this topic as well.. :/

BlackFoot wrote:Using the 'you have gotten stuff, now let other people get stuff' should not be even rometely considered in any arguement having to do with bettering UOSA. It is basically the card people pull up when they cant think of anything productive to add.
If people followed this chain of reasoning ingots would still cost 5gp on npcs so people could all gm their smiths for free cause a few people did at the start. You would still be able to gm resist in the safety of town. Every player that logged in should automatically get every single holiday prize immediately added to their bag that has ever happened, it wasnt their fault they werent here.
If you seriously think this is a real arguement and treated it as such no progress would ever be made.
Please stop using it as an arguement.
Its about bettering UOSA, not about making everything super fair forever for everyone.

spoke the guy with not less than three hued masks

BlackFoot wrote:Using the 'you have gotten stuff, now let other people get stuff' should not be even rometely considered in any arguement having to do with bettering UOSA. It is basically the card people pull up when they cant think of anything productive to add.

Homie wrote:

spoke the guy with not less than three hued masks

point proven?

BlackFoot wrote:
point proven?

lobbyism proven?

Blackfoot trophy system encourages people to log. Trophy system encourages people to ACTIVELY play the game (ie farm log on to play the events). Trophy system draws players to UOSA and keeps people from going to other shards I rather than here. Trophy system does not effect the mechanics of the gameplay. Trophy system IS good for UOSA and does better the shard. No disputing.

I know personally when I logged in to check out the shard for the first time a magic red gate appeared, I went inside and it was a 1v1 tournament. I was hooked at that point and then realize there were all sorts of events.

Mirage wrote:Blackfoot trophy system encourages people to log. Trophy system encourages people to ACTIVELY play the game (ie farm log on to play the events). Trophy system draws players to UOSA and keeps people from going to other shards I rather than here. Trophy system does not effect the mechanics of the gameplay. Trophy system IS good for UOSA and does better the shard. No disputing.

So how would non-transferable trophies make it different. You could still buy and sell rewards so there would still be a gold/point ratio. You just couldnt do it until you have 50 points or whatever.

This would encourage user to play even more events if there goal is to redeem rewards.

This would keep people who arnt there to play the events (afk'ers) away bc of removing the immediate value to them.

Even something like being able to turn in 20 trophies for a 20 point deed could work. Then you could trade and sell those.

I demand that we make a notion for the removal of all events.

How about that..

alatar wrote:I demand that we make a notion for the removal of all events.

How about that..

Suggestions and Era Accuracy start a thread. kthxbye

Hoots wrote:

Mirage wrote:Blackfoot trophy system encourages people to log. Trophy system encourages people to ACTIVELY play the game (ie farm log on to play the events). Trophy system draws players to UOSA and keeps people from going to other shards I rather than here. Trophy system does not effect the mechanics of the gameplay. Trophy system IS good for UOSA and does better the shard. No disputing.

So how would non-transferable trophies make it different. You could still buy and sell rewards so there would still be a gold/point ratio. You just couldnt do it until you have 50 points or whatever.

This would encourage user to play even more events if there goal is to redeem rewards.

This would keep people who arnt there to play the events (afk'ers) away bc of removing the immediate value to them.

Even something like being able to turn in 20 trophies for a 20 point deed could work. Then you could trade and sell those.

People being able to buy/sell their points enables people to obtain items that realistically aren't within their reach (at that pace a hued mask would take 2 years to obtain etc). It also encourages advanced players to farm for something else, since most like myself have no need to farm anymore. They would still AFK the event regardless if there is no immediate turn around because they could just AFK and save up enough for a lvl 1 rare etc and sell it. In theory non-transferable trophies sound good but it wouldn't stop anything from doing anything they were going to do anyway.....

Mirage wrote:Blackfoot trophy system encourages people to log. Trophy system encourages people to ACTIVELY play the game (ie farm log on to play the events). Trophy system draws players to UOSA and keeps people from going to other shards I rather than here. Trophy system does not effect the mechanics of the gameplay. Trophy system IS good for UOSA and does better the shard. No disputing.

i dont think i said anything about the trophy system in this thread, so this should not be directed towards me.

My point in all of this is simply trophys made the ctf games suck.
Without trophys I am enjoying the games much more.

Edit: I had no idea this thread was actually about the trophy system, I thought it was about how they were obtained.