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any healer mages running around?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:50 pm
by Reyhan
or was that spec not viable until eval + anat = wrestling
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:53 pm
by alatar
Reyhan wrote:or was that spec not viable until eval + anat = wrestling
That + the addition of special abilities in UO:R.
The healer mage didn't become popular until Stun was introduced, and from then it became the most powerful template in the game if used correctly.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:03 pm
by Reyhan
Looks like mage core + weapon/tactics it is!
macefighting saps stamina even if you are mounted, right? If you have no stam, you can't move whether you are mounted or not....?
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:54 pm
by alatar
Reyhan wrote:Looks like mage core + weapon/tactics it is!
macefighting saps stamina even if you are mounted, right? If you have no stam, you can't move whether you are mounted or not....?
correct
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:38 pm
by Xukluk Tuguznal
i run a healer mage. It is still fun. Just don't expect to kill another mage unless he supremely sucks. Healing through poison dictates that you need a weapon skill as relying on off spells and the perfectly timed spell to disrupt the cure before they heal. It just isn't a viable playstyle here unless you run with a large group.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:16 am
by archaicsubrosa77
Xukluk Tuguznal wrote:i run a healer mage. It is still fun. Just don't expect to kill another mage unless he supremely sucks. Healing through poison dictates that you need a weapon skill as relying on off spells and the perfectly timed spell to disrupt the cure before they heal. It just isn't a viable playstyle here unless you run with a large group.
except for PVM where you apply bandage cast invisible and wait for mana regen and your bandages to take affect.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:53 am
by iamreallysquall
as i have one of these on this shard and have played it in both event pvp ctf etc and other situations like dungeon crawls id have to adgree with both people said about pvm and larger groups
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:55 am
by archaicsubrosa77
iamreallysquall wrote:as i have one of these on this shard and have played it in both event pvp ctf etc and other situations like dungeon crawls id have to adgree with both people said about pvm and larger groups
Well share some of your techniques for those people who want to play a healer mage then. How did you try to PVP with one?
Did you have a strategy?
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:58 am
by alatar
archaicsubrosa77 wrote:iamreallysquall wrote:as i have one of these on this shard and have played it in both event pvp ctf etc and other situations like dungeon crawls id have to adgree with both people said about pvm and larger groups
Well share some of your techniques for those people who want to play a healer mage then. How did you try to PVP with one?
Did you have a strategy?
There aren't any. Not even the best PvP'er on the server could make a single kill with this template unless the opponent was a complete noob.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:16 am
by archaicsubrosa77
What about raising healing up to GM without Anatomy which can heal what 21-51 points of damage? And then Train Hiding and Stealth up to GM but then drop Hiding (which I heard you can do and just stealth invisible) and have this temp
(Post Note the rumor about stealth was false)
Healing
Magery
Stealth
Resist
Eval
Meditation
Wrestling
Just got to spin it around you know then it works. This would let you cast cure and start a bandage timer, or bandage up cast invisible then insta-stealth a bit before coming back into the fight.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:36 am
by Xukluk Tuguznal
As far as I know using stealth runs a hide check.
As far as pvm. I never tried that cause I make more money with my bard lol. I did do the one v one's and two v two's as well as three v three's. Which were interesting. I was the first person to rez someone during those events because of it lol.
Field wise. It is all about synching and bandages keep some of your mana usage down. Although 15-18 seconds is a terribly long time to wait, on a dexxer or mage and as a mage often times you'll wonder if it was worth it. Then there are times you'll drop a good combo or have someone redlined however... You'll be out of mana and wishing you had a weapon skill to finish the kill.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:18 pm
by XaN
you don't have to be a perfect 7x char to make this type of template work... I love how all of you so called vets consistently bring up why it won't work, instead of how it could.
Magery - 90
Meditation - 70
Resist - 100
Eval - 100
Healing - 80
Anat - 80
Wepskill - 90
tactics - 90
Everything is high enough to work properly and you still have that wep skill to finish them off. I forgot wrestling...
Magery - 90
Med - 90
Resist - 90
Eval - 90
Healing - 80
NO ANATOMY
Wepskill - 90
Tactics - 90
Wrestling - 80
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:07 pm
by archaicsubrosa77
Xukluk Tuguznal wrote:As far as I know using stealth runs a hide check.
As far as pvm. I never tried that cause I make more money with my bard lol. I did do the one v one's and two v two's as well as three v three's. Which were interesting. I was the first person to rez someone during those events because of it lol.
Field wise. It is all about synching and bandages keep some of your mana usage down. Although 15-18 seconds is a terribly long time to wait, on a dexxer or mage and as a mage often times you'll wonder if it was worth it. Then there are times you'll drop a good combo or have someone redlined however... You'll be out of mana and wishing you had a weapon skill to finish the kill.
OlmanRiver in irc has stated that he has stealth without hide on a character and just uses invisible. He dropped hiding after obtaining it.
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:14 pm
by Eulogy
I think my friend tested this on test center and it didn't work, but I'm not 100%..
Re: any healer mages running around?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:15 pm
by archaicsubrosa77
Eulogy wrote:I think my friend tested this on test center and it didn't work, but I'm not 100%..
Test may not be an exact replica of game mechanics in all aspects.
By chance is there anyone who can verify before someone has to drop hiding under 80 to test?
We have one yes and one no answer from other sources.