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Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:59 pm
by valheru
It appears that while dragons auto attack murderers, they do not do the same for their master. I didn't notice this in the documentation for tamers. If a tamer is red, his dragons should attack him just as often as they do for other reds.

Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:36 pm
by GuardianKnight
What a horrible thing to do to your guildmates lol.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:36 pm
by ClowN
i remember hearing something about this, but i dont know much about taming.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:03 am
by Derrick
There is a loyalty check involved, but they should be aggressive towards any reds, even their matsers.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:05 am
by valheru
It's been tested.
Red tamers seem to lose loyalty faster, but the dragons do NOT auto agress them in the same manner that they do other reds.
Something is up/wrong with this.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:35 am
by GuardianKnight
To be fair i have noticed that they aren't attacking reds much at all on their own lately. i sit next to one a day ago and chatted and they didn't do anything.
Month ago i couldn't get 6 dragons in the same screen without them going berserk and fire balling a red.
Noticed kain wasn't doing his Dragon bomb anymore so i assumed that Derrick changed it due to the anger of the pks dieing everytime they went to destard.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:53 pm
by Derrick
AI was adjusted in a recent patch to fix an issue with fire breathers predictably auto-regressing after being told to stop. All uncommanded pet behavior will be less predictable, however this was not directly in response to any particular situation, but a culmination of pet AI discussions that have been ongoing for many months.
Subject: Patch 114-Sept 8 2009: Hit Locations, Parry AR display, NPCs
Derrick wrote:
- Pets no longer 'follow' on claim from stables, nor have their order set to 'stay' when stabling
- Peacemaking breaks provocation
- Some changes were made to monster pet AI which may reduce the chance of them continually attacking controlled creatures they had fought with previously.
I know the description is less than comprehensive, but complete results of AI parameter changes are not always fully predicatable.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:21 pm
by Mikel123
Yeah, they don't particularly seem to care about Reds at all anymore.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:13 am
by GuardianKnight
Ok i did a test and it seems that the VERY best times for a dragon to attack a pk on it's own is when you haven't commanded it to do anything or it has just finished killing a monster. Otherwise they are ....tame.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:30 am
by GuardianKnight
Btw i would like to point out that this topic is not dead. Basically turned off the only useful thing a dragon does.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:53 am
by Derrick
valheru wrote:It appears that while dragons auto attack murderers, they do not do the same for their master. I didn't notice this in the documentation for tamers. If a tamer is red, his dragons should attack him just as often as they do for other reds.

This is an old thread, but a bug has been found with this and it will be fixed in the next patch, which looks at this point to be Wednesday morning.
Please spread the word that this will be fixed; this is also in the MOTD. I don't want this to come as a surprise to red's who happen to have dragons.
Firebreathers should be agressive to muderers.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:34 am
by Mens Rea
Good work Derrick - is this an indication that other taming issues are rising to the top of matters you are considering? ^^
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:21 am
by Derrick
Mens Rea wrote:Good work Derrick - is this an indication that other taming issues are rising to the top of matters you are considering? ^^
Aye, especially the guarding, you'll be please to know as you commented on it elsewhere that the failure messages will be more specific.
It's turned out to be a good thing this patch got delayed for a day as we are re-looking at the ability for a pet owner to be guarded by his own pet in town; there seems to be some conflicting information on this.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:28 am
by Derrick
Bump, this will take effect tommorrow.
Re: Dragons auto aggressing their red master....
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:57 am
by archaicsubrosa77
There was a round about hint about "guild mate"...
does this or did this flag a murderer as a guild mate if the red was guilded rather then as just another PK?