UO Second Age

Lately when I pull up a sea serpent I will say "forward" and the boat will move at max speed while the sea serpent stays glued to the side of my boat.

No matter what I do I cant seem to outrun the serpents at all.

Definitely don't remember them swimming that fast back on GL.

water elementals seem to keep pace with full speed boats as of late, as well. Perhaps something needs to be tweaked with monsters spawned in areas designated as water?

Whether or not this is correct...I'm guessing it is probably the boat speed that needs to be changed

I used a boat a couple months ago and was shocked at how slow it was.

For some reason, I remember there being two speeds, "forward" and "slow forward". Perhaps the explanation is that our command of "forward" is being interpreted as "slow forward".

As for the speed relative to serpents or elementals, I can't say for sure.

I've noticed that while moving in a Northern Direction if the serpent/element/dolphin are touching the left side of the boat next to the tillerman they will "hitch a ride". Its easy to get them off via Peacemaking in my experience

Krats wrote:I've noticed that while moving in a Northern Direction if the serpent/element/dolphin are touching the left side of the boat next to the tillerman they will "hitch a ride". Its easy to get them off via Peacemaking in my experience

I think that this may be the case.

Maybe they just get stuck to the boat, but move fine in other respects?

Test to make sure they aren't on the boat, Boats should be moving way faster than creatures at full speed. We do have both movement speeds, <direction> and slow <direction>. in slow they probably would keep up.

Derrick wrote:Test to make sure they aren't on the boat, Boats should be moving way faster than creatures at full speed. We do have both movement speeds, <direction> and slow <direction>. in slow they probably would keep up.

It looks like they are stuck to the side of the boat.

Are they supposed to get on a boat without the plank out?
If that's the case I suppose there's no problem.

Lord Cavewight of GL wrote:

Derrick wrote:Test to make sure they aren't on the boat, Boats should be moving way faster than creatures at full speed. We do have both movement speeds, <direction> and slow <direction>. in slow they probably would keep up.

It looks like they are stuck to the side of the boat.

Are they supposed to get on a boat without the plank out?
If that's the case I suppose there's no problem.

My guess is it is probably accurate, as Serpent corpses used to get stuck on the boat all the time.

poogoblin wrote:

Lord Cavewight of GL wrote:

Derrick wrote:Test to make sure they aren't on the boat, Boats should be moving way faster than creatures at full speed. We do have both movement speeds, <direction> and slow <direction>. in slow they probably would keep up.

It looks like they are stuck to the side of the boat.

Are they supposed to get on a boat without the plank out?
If that's the case I suppose there's no problem.

My guess is it is probably accurate, as Serpent corpses used to get stuck on the boat all the time.

It wasnt the corpses causing my problem.

One would be alive following on this one or two tile area and it would get dragged with the boat.

A screen shot might help us to determine if the live serpents are getting stuck on the boat or not. Boats have always been buggy and not entirely well-implemented, even more so on emulators if I remember correctly. So it may be that they're just being pulled along because it detects them as being on the boat.

Next time it happens try using the "forward right" or "forward left" commands, to see if that helps you lose them.

Hopes this helps.

I was moving Forward Right and this thing was stuck in the same spot as the last one.

Thanks for the screenshot. Aye, that one is definitely sitting on the boat railing.

The boats on this shard move at a slower speed than they should. This is why the serpents and water elms can keep up with everyone. I have also noticed that multiple players can command the tiller man here, while back in the day, Only the person standing closest to the tillerman could give movement commands successfully.

I also noticed that Sea Serpents continue to harass fishermen reguardless of their skill level, although back in the day, the higher a fisherman's skill level, the fewer times he would fail, thus once he hit GM fishing, he would NEVER pull up Sea Serpents.

All in all, I think the Boat speeds NEED to be increased, and everything else is fine as is.

sirrayiv wrote: I also noticed that Sea Serpents continue to harass fishermen reguardless of their skill level, although back in the day, the higher a fisherman's skill level, the fewer times he would fail, thus once he hit GM fishing, he would NEVER pull up Sea Serpents.

That's an interesting point... Perhaps this is still a holdover of when you needed to kill serpents for MiBs before it was changed back to fishing up MiBs.

On the Fishing update, GM fishermen needed to be able to fish up serpents to get the MiBs. So a NEVER or RARE fail would not pull up a serpent and get their bottles.

Currently, there's no need to fail for serpents at GM.