there's a double edged sword of era accuracy on this server.

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there's a double edged sword of era accuracy on this server.

Post by ehafh »

my understanding of this server is that it strives for era accuracy.
however, there's obviously a double edged sword for whatever reason.
no clue if it's a coding horror, laziness, playing favorites or what.

so the cove bank is going to vanish? town becomes useless.
but we get to keep neon npc vendors? not era accurate. makes server more
era accurate by removing. nothing gained to new players by keeping.

yup. way to keep it era accurate... :roll:
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Re: there's a double edged sword of era accuracy on this server.

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its no longer possible to dress vendors. the ones you see will be phazed out over time. they are currently grandfathered in from the previous vendor system. if you want to make a serious plea with the staff for any accuracy related change on this server, i may recommend doing so without the sarcastic attacks on their efforts. your words will be taken much more seriously. these accuracy changes take time to code, and no one is getting paid to do this. it will take time for this server to achieve true accuracy. just because something isnt currently accurate doesnt mean that the staff are playing favorites, or being lazy. it means they havnt had time to fix it yet.

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it's not era accurate. plain and simple, if annoying changes like removal of useful features:
cutting bandages 1 by 1 instead of all at once, like how fish steaks cook.
removing a bank from a town, 2 years after it's been there?

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Why second age?

Why Second Age? Because only on UOSA can you find unmatched accuracy to the greatest age of UO - T2A. We have replicated the experience that has made UO the success it remains today. Furthermore, the highly professional and dedicated staff of UOSA is unrivaled in their desire to bring the T2A experience to life like never before, simply for the love of the game.

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* Era accuracy is our top priority

like i said. they were never there, and if gameplay helpers are being removed..
get rid of this carebear crap already.
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How many of these do you really run in to? Are they affecting game play for you somehow that we should care?

Is somebody dressing as a vendor at a mall and then PKing your little crafter and you're raging about it?

I'm just trying to figure out why, of all inaccuracies and other issues, a few vendors with certain pieces of clothing are what you're here to post about.

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it's not doing anything to further the motif of the shard.
it's working against players who use the era accurate vendors.

new player arrives, goes to yew for example.
see's vendors in daemon bone neon's and glacial staffs?
"i thought this was t2a era? maybe it's not? "

hmm.. they will vanish says the previous reply?
unlikely. this is the type of thing someone will make a large effort to refresh/pay the upkeep.
it's not era inaccurate, nobody else can get them now, and it stands out.

by removing these the era would be more accurate, case closed.
maybe it's not actually top priority though.
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so your biggest complaint about the accuracy is somthing thats already being phased out?

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Vendors cannot be customed dressed, the game mechanic is era accurate.

The rest that are left over are grandfathered and will disappear over time. The server does not punish a player for a mistake that was brought about by the development process rather it's something being overlooked or not getting around to fixing it in time. The previous inaccurate features that have been made accurate are grandfathered. This is a suitable policy in my opinion for obvious reasons.

There are many inaccurate features currently being worked on still and there is absolutely no reason to punish someone for this.

The server strives for mechanical game accuracy to the t2a era and that is something being worked on each and every day.

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The vendors are pretty annoying, but I agree, they will eventually decay. It's hard to focus on this unintentional issue (grandfathering is a part of uo), when there are other intentional, more permanent fixtures.

mYm's grief-proof dueling arena with teleporters in their private house.
special rule pvp tournaments outside the realm of actual gameplay.
trophy rewards in general, and their effects on item availability/economy.
large-scale town invasions, under guard protection.

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Post by Karik Verlee »

In t2a there was stuff grandfathered in that never was very unique since you couldn't do it anymore(No dressing vendors but thats an example, its been fixed.)


Cove never had a bank on Chesapeake in t2a, and yes the town was pretty useless, the only time I remember seeing people there was getting ressed at the healers after getting killed at the orc fort, or picking up NPC to deliver to other towns/dungeons.
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our arena isnt "grief proof"


you just need to try harder
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Pro wrote:our arena isnt "grief proof"

you just need to try harder
The only way in is through the teleporters in your home?
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(yes I know there is a way to taget 1 or 2 tiles inside)

A no-recall no-mark area though? Really? Let's keep the trammel-events in the trammel-event arenas please.

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so you cant cast EQ on the edge? or you wont cast EQ on the edge?


THIS ARENA DOESNT CATER TO ME STEALTHING IN TO LOOT CHANGE IT.
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ehafh wrote: by removing these the era would be more accurate, case closed.
maybe it's not actually top priority though.
Why are those vendors such top priority for you? I have a feeling this isn't just about era accuracy.

Whatever it is, this shard is great. With every patch I see the staff trying to make the shard more like T2A, which is wonderful. You should be happy that they took the Cove bank away. It's now more era accurate, which is SO important to you right? Let's celebrate. One step closer to T2A accuracy!

You have to understand that people have different perspectives on what the bigger issues are in terms of era-inaccuracy. Who knows, maybe when the more problematic issues are dealt with, maybe they'll remove those grand-fathered customized vendors?

For the record, knowing that you can no longer customize vendors, a few grandfathered ones are not that big of a deal (in my view at least). What's a big deal for me? Samurai style long/short pants on the female paperdoll!!! What is up with that?! This is major and should be dealt with before those stupid vendors!

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uofuntime wrote:Samurai style long/short pants on the female paperdoll!!! What is up with that?! This is major and should be dealt with before those stupid vendors!
i thought you were delusional but i just crafted up a fresh pair of each and checked them out and you are correct.. thats very odd indeed. ill work on changing the graphics for the next installer release but that will only affect new players/installations. this is a client side artwork issue and has nothing to do with the server. i will also be able to make a patch available to change the artwork for current installations of client version 5.0.8.3.

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its also good to keep questioning things you think are not accurate.. but you can easily do that with a little bit of politeness.
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