UO Second Age

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:12 am**

Or will it go up faster because skills gain better when the check is successful?

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:17 am**

don't think it will make any difference.. but i don't know.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:26 pm**

It will make your skill go up slower, because at higher levels of archery, you have less of a chance to gain skill. Successful checks has nothing to do with skill on this shard (sorry, I'm like 99% sure about this, not 100).

The one exception is if the accuracy mod gets you closer to the weapon skill of your enemy. So if you have 70 archery and equip a +5 bow, and are shooting at a 90 wrestling enemy, moving closer to 90 might help you more than the difference in skill gain from 70 to 75. I'd bet not though... I'd bet you're best off using plain bows.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:09 pm**

Mikel123 wrote:It will make your skill go up slower, because at higher levels of archery, you have less of a chance to gain skill. Successful checks has nothing to do with skill on this shard (sorry, I'm like 99% sure about this, not 100).

Assume we have 86 archery and a +14 bow, that would be 100 combined. It would be impossible to gain any higher (which I'm sure you can) if the accuracy modifer affected skill gain, wouldn't it?

Mikel123 wrote:The one exception is if the accuracy mod gets you closer to the weapon skill of your enemy. So if you have 70 archery and equip a +5 bow, and are shooting at a 90 wrestling enemy, moving closer to 90 might help you more than the difference in skill gain from 70 to 75. I'd bet not though... I'd bet you're best off using plain bows.

Yes, it could help your Archery skill under some conditions by moving it closer to your enemies. It will however, always help your Tactics gains since that depends upon a successful hit (and rarely will you be sparring against someone with exactly 0 skill).

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:15 pm**

Rammar wrote:
Mikel123 wrote:It will make your skill go up slower, because at higher levels of archery, you have less of a chance to gain skill. Successful checks has nothing to do with skill on this shard (sorry, I'm like 99% sure about this, not 100).
Assume we have 86 archery and a +14 bow, that would be 100 combined. It would be impossible to gain any higher (which I'm sure you can) if the accuracy modifer affected skill gain, wouldn't it?

I might be missing something, but I don't follow.

I guess you're assuming UO uses:
"If displayed skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

My impression was that it uses:
"If real skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:43 pm**

Mikel123 wrote: I guess you're assuming UO uses:
"If displayed skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

My impression was that it uses:
"If real skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

Displayed skill is what is used when gaining any other skill, isn't it? Eg. lockpicking stops at 95 shown on a GM lockbox, but you could have several different "real" values depending on stats. If the skill gain formula (using displayed skill) was being used *after* the accuracy modifier was applied you would never have any chance to gain if over 99.9.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:53 pm**

Mikel123 wrote: I guess you're assuming UO uses:
"If displayed skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

My impression was that it uses:
"If real skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:07 pm**

Mikel123 wrote:I guess you're assuming UO uses:
"If displayed skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

My impression was that it uses:
"If real skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

The former is true, not the latter.

You can obtain skills above 100 by equipping items that add to that skill, but you cannot continue to gain once a skill is at or above 100 displayed skill.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:35 am**

Mikel123 wrote:
Mikel123 wrote: I guess you're assuming UO uses:
"If displayed skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

My impression was that it uses:
"If real skill >= 100.0, then skill gains are impossible."

I assumed neither of these things.
Obviously real skill cannot exceed 100.
Obvously shown skill can also exceed 100. You can still gain tact from 80 with a +20 sword.

The question isn't if you can gain, but at what rate -- when in the calculation is the die cast. It's apparent it is not done in the beginning using real skill. So is it done at the very end (where it would make gaining extremely difficult at 124.9 with a +25), or just before the weapon modifiers (where gain would be as normal for 99.9).

I might test it later, the difference using a supremely accurate weapon should be apparent rather quickly if there is one.

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