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Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:05 pm
by Ripplinger
There were 4 color/type combinations. Black with long or short mane, and grey with long or short mane.

I don't think I've ever seen a black with short mane yet. Do they exist on this server? Not that I even like them, I hated the short manes even on regular horses and would never tame them, but it was era accurate to have the ugly things.

Re: Nightmare color question

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:20 pm
by Biohazard
Ripplinger wrote:There were 4 color/type combinations. Black with long or short mane, and grey with long or short mane.
I never even noticed there were different length manes.

Re: Nightmare color question

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:31 pm
by Sexy Smithy
Yeah, i'm pretty sure that was true. I thought there was some talk of it awhile back...

Re: Nightmare color question

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:50 am
by Ripplinger
I hunted through all my old images for one, but like I said, I never liked the short manes so those were the first I gave away, so didn't have any images of short manes at all.

But I'm 100% certain they were spawning in that color choice also, pure black with a short mane.

Edit: Dug through all my old screenshots and couldn't find anything. I was initially wondering if maybe I just hadn't run across that color combination yet with the RNG and hoping someone would post they have one, but seems they don't spawn on this server as they should. I'll change the subject and maybe it'll catch Derrick's attention. If he can take away our blue sandals for era accuracy, I'm sure he'll want to give us correct nightmare colors too! :lol:

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:59 pm
by Light Shade
Image

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:44 pm
by Ripplinger
Found one finally! Had some old 4GB drives laying around that were replaced and hooked them up and found one that I had given to a friend from a treasure hunt.

The original image is dated August 10, 1999, which is the first image (and I'm cringing at the thought of playing on a 640 res screen).

2nd image, I enlarged just the nightmare area so it's clearer which mane is on the black mare.

And 3rd image, same nightmare area with gamma raised so it's very clear that the nightmare has the short mane.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:38 am
by Derrick
There are all four varieties of nightmare on UOSA.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:52 am
by Ripplinger
I have yet to see a black with short mane on the server though, and noone in this thread has seen one either. You're certain they actually do spawn? That was my first guess, just bad luck with seeing them, but after seeing at least 30 wild nightmares, plus all that I see characters riding, you would think at least one of them would have been black with the short mane, no?

I'll keep looking though and still watching characters on nightmares.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:54 pm
by Jorel
To be honest i have never seen a Pure with a short mane here either.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:22 pm
by rouss
Ripplinger wrote:Found one finally! Had some old 4GB drives laying around that were replaced and hooked them up and found one that I had given to a friend from a treasure hunt.

The original image is dated August 10, 1999, which is the first image (and I'm cringing at the thought of playing on a 640 res screen).

2nd image, I enlarged just the nightmare area so it's clearer which mane is on the black mare.

And 3rd image, same nightmare area with gamma raised so it's very clear that the nightmare has the short mane.
do you mind uploading all of your screenies from era somewhere? (this would help find other inaccuracies)

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:28 pm
by Sexy Smithy
I have never seen a short mane pure on UOSA.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:26 pm
by Ripplinger
rouss wrote:do you mind uploading all of your screenies from era somewhere? (this would help find other inaccuracies)
A lot of them are absolutely useless for anything, like a lot of house screenshots with various furniture placement, and it would really take up a huge chunk of room someplace. I read the era accuracy posts often, and if there's anything I see that I can prove one way or the other with any screenshots I might have, I'll dig them out and post them as needed. I've also been careful to not re-save any images accidentally when open so the original date doesn't get overwritten, that's been very useful to have here.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:13 am
by Klapios
Jorel wrote:To be honest i have never seen a Pure with a short mane here either.
I have, I tamed one some days ago. I just sold it today and I made sure that the buyer saw the difference as well. Its not as obvious as the screenshot ripplinger posted but more subtle like the picture from the Taming Archive. I didn't even notice it at first until I refreshed my stable and noticed that one of my shortmane mares was darker.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:12 am
by Ripplinger
The original mares during T2A were just as black as the black with long manes. It sounds like you've seen a slight variation of a grey shade, not a pure black as it should look.

Re: Nightmare colors not era accurate

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:35 am
by Faust
There are three horse animations in UO... A white, light brown, and dark brown style. When you hue it up with the dark balron color you get three different types and shades of a nightmare.

The concept is pretty simple.