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giving murder counts...

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:58 pm
by Mor'Sereg
What era did OSI remove the ability to recall from a fight and still give a murder count? Or am i thinking of some other shard? No biggie, but giving counts after you recall from fight is ultra-lame.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:23 pm
by Flatwoods
I'm fairly sure that it always was if you dealt damage then you could get a count as long as you died before the 2 minute attack timer wore off (after the last damage dealt). If you didn't want to take a kill... then why would you attack in the first place? Just pretend you killed him and didn't get any loot.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:37 am
by Derrick
Aye. this is valid.
If you attacked someone and they die in the next two minutes it's your count. If they recalled home red-lined, and were killed by a gargoyle waiting on a doorstep the kill still lands on the initial aggressor.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:26 am
by niqeo
very true, but I see where this is going. People don't like the fact that somone rolls up with their blue spamming you talking trash and when you pwn them and they get the recall off, they just kill themselves with their other toon then res again give you the count. Yes very lame, but you always have the option to ignore the newbs.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:31 pm
by Maleficia
Also didn't becoming fully healed, negate the ability to report. I seem to remember many a time running from greys trying to heal me before I could die somewhere and give the count.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:16 am
by Derrick
Aye. if you're healed to full it should not allow you to count the person if you subsequently die.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:27 pm
by Faust
There was a patch in early '99 that removed the ability to give a murder count if someone recalled away.
Thieves Guild, new skills, and more Feb 24 1999 1:06PM
You will no longer be able to report people for murder after recalling away.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:31 pm
by Derrick
Nice find. Thanks.

This will be implemented in the nxt patch.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:52 pm
by alatar
Derrick wrote:Aye. if you're healed to full it should not allow you to count the person if you subsequently die.
Might want to do some tests on this or add a seperate "tag" for paralyze.. If you change this than you could just heal the victim after paralyzing them, thus receiving no counts.

I could be looking too hard into this though.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:13 pm
by Mor'Sereg
Faust wrote:There was a patch in early '99 that removed the ability to give a murder count if someone recalled away.
Thieves Guild, new skills, and more Feb 24 1999 1:06PM
You will no longer be able to report people for murder after recalling away.
I was looking through the history before starting this thread but couln't find that little piece of information.
I recalled the recalling away and not being able to report, but since others didn't recall that, I gave up on looking, HOHO! ;p

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:51 pm
by Derrick
alatar wrote:
Derrick wrote:Aye. if you're healed to full it should not allow you to count the person if you subsequently die.
Might want to do some tests on this or add a seperate "tag" for paralyze.. If you change this than you could just heal the victim after paralyzing them, thus receiving no counts.

I could be looking too hard into this though.
As soon as you damaged them again though you'd be eligible for counts. This is contrary to the two minute timer and I don't belive it's currently active.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:47 pm
by niqeo
This will be a nice addition.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:00 am
by HarryB
I remember getting multiple counts for attacking certain assholes back in the day......so I just said screw it and kept on murdering.

Re: giving murder counts...

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:25 am
by MatronDeWinter
I'm going to go ahead and call someone out for abusing this system. The other day my trusty compadre and I were in a completely legitimate fight north of vesper. We were very much blue, and our combatants were Red and Grey, a standard 2v2. In any case, in pops "Aliyah" of the honerable A$$ guild who proceeds to cast explosion-recall combos on me. So I ran into town and allowed myself to die, figuring she would mind her own business. But alas, I could give no murdercounts. Seriously? If this is the case, Im going to Gather several of my blue friends and Explode-Recall combo murder people.

That is freaking ridiculous, all I have to say...
/rant