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PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:20 am
by Leviathan
Seriously, Being a former member of the Yew Militia I find this pretty shitty coming from a supposed "RP" guild. Glad you guys got the 200 arrows though....

Please see file attached. That is all.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:28 am
by DarkWing
i see no exploits ..

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:33 am
by archaicsubrosa77
Read this
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4674&view=previous
DoomCraft wrote:There is some kind of boat bug/exploit going around now after the release of this.

All of my boats are getting looted, including everything in the hold. I do not have any keys laying around publicly, these boats have also been on the water for up to 2 months without any problems.

It makes me wonder if there is either a problem with the decay timer now or if someone has found a way to get on board without any commands, because the boats never move from their spots.
They were not able to board with you ghosting right at the tiller man...
things aboard a ship arent supposed to be visible to others if it is stationary.

I dont know if you can make a connection or if it even fits.

Yeah cryptic. Just a guess, place things around the deck when you dock just not where you recall to. Another guess is that this went forward just to encourage acts of piracy such as in the incidents that were quoted above.
The visibility patch came not too long after...most likely with reason.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:39 am
by Boondock_Saint
I just watched this whole thing..and I didn't see any bugs? or exploits..

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:52 am
by Kander
Yarrr we are not a full RP guild we are semi RP if u check our form section you would read that. We act like pirates we say yar. And also hold normal convos. :)

PS: nice vid u caught my good side i looked pretty.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:28 am
by Leviathan
1:42 1st Gate exploit attempt.

1:57 Obvious attempt to distract and make me move my boat onto their spot.

2:08 Stiltskin magically walking on waer then very quickly getting back onboard.

2:25 Kander wondering why I am not biting.

2:43 2nd Gate exploit attempt.

2:50 Kander trying to get me to move the ship backwards onto there spot.

4:46 Stiltskin trying to get me to move once again.

4:49 3rd Gate exploint attempt with Stiltskin demanding my boat to move.

5:23 Stiltskin magically walking on water once again.

5:50 Stiltskin boards and they run for it.

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So please tell me how this is not exploiting game mechanics? I am assuming this is an "RP" guild with some custom town too right?
Sorry, but if this is what you consider "era accurate" then I must be playing the wrong server.

I would also like to add that this is not a role playing guild (I was in the Yew Militia for 1 1/2 years so I am pretty sure I know). These are simply griefers on boats deterring new or returning users away. I don't care about getting killed, especially in an rp scenario, but this is nonsense...

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:56 am
by archaicsubrosa77
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CHILL...
I think I shown you the way to stop some forms of piracy.
I thought it was an exploit until I rearchived the thread I remembered it from.
Silence was a big factor in it as Derrick kept quiet to let people investigate for themselves or whatever. It must be accurate but wasnt something he wanted to encourage or ruin the fun of others who knew the secret.

Just give yourself a pat on the back for recording it in action.
You made alot of newer players aware.

Tomorrow is another day.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:26 am
by Leviathan
It must be accurate but wasnt something he wanted to encourage or ruin the fun of others who knew the secret.
Yea, because bullshit game mechanics are fun for everyone right? No, they are only fun for the people screwing others over. E for effort.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:33 am
by Kaivan
The technique in use is not an exploit. When a moongate is cast, the moongate sets specific locations for the exits of each moongate. The exit of the moongate on the side of the caster is the marked location of the rune/runebook, and the exit of the location at the marked point is at the location of the caster when the moongate is cast. This is not updated in any capacity when a boat moves, which results in the ability to appear on water when moving through the gate from the marked location back to the original point of being cast.

The only time that this can be used to "exploit" is when the victim boat is moved on to the tile that the gate was cast on, after the first boat has moved. Because the victim boat is now occupying space that the first boat was occupying, any person passing through to the location where the moongate was cast can now freely move around on the deck of that boat. This is not something that can be considered an actual exploit, because this requires a specific set of actions to be done in the presence of intended mechanics in order to be successful.

We have gone to great lengths to ensure that boats are not lootable by simply existing, and have done many appropriate modifications to the RunUO default code (which has boat looting as an easy to succeed at task) to achieve that end and beyond what we have done, there are no more significant changes that can be made to the code to ensure the safety of boats without severely breaching mechanical accuracy.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:27 am
by Mens Rea
Before Nov 23rd 1999 you would be banned for exploiting this.

Accuracy plz.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:04 pm
by RoadKill
Mens Rea wrote:Before Nov 23rd 1999 you would be banned for exploiting this.

Accuracy plz.
Let's start banning for unattended macroing, multiclienting, excessive swearing, having racist guild titles, and having certain names that involve words or abridged sentences that are offensive

We are going for era accurate mechanics, not rules.

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:13 pm
by Leviathan
The only time that this can be used to "exploit" is when the victim boat is moved on to the tile that the gate was cast on...

So, a video and screen shots of a guild showing three separate attempts of this exact technique is completely cool? The only reason they were not successful is because I didn't fall for it and move my boat. It is not like this is the first time they have done this as you can see it has been practiced. They are blatantly exploiting game mechanics to loot boats. Would I be banned for attempting to dupe gold even if I was not successful? (Probably so....)

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:32 pm
by BobDobbs
Kaivan wrote:The technique in use is not an exploit. When a moongate is cast, the moongate sets specific locations for the exits of each moongate. The exit of the moongate on the side of the caster is the marked location of the rune/runebook, and the exit of the location at the marked point is at the location of the caster when the moongate is cast. This is not updated in any capacity when a boat moves, which results in the ability to appear on water when moving through the gate from the marked location back to the original point of being cast.
What is left to discuss?

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:19 pm
by Vhyx
This is not something that can be considered an actual exploit, because this requires a specific set of actions to be done in the presence of intended mechanics in order to be successful.
What is left to discuss?

Re: PoD Exploiting: Video Included...

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:09 pm
by Arsen
plz delete this thread :roll: