UO Second Age

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Mens Rea wrote:"Board index » Discussion » Suggestions & Era Accuracy"

Figure it out Hicha

Mens Rea wrote:Let me break it down for you boys.

There are a time tested set of arguments that are inherently invalid on this forum. I say inherently invalid because they do not engage with the stated goal of the shard, and that is to be an accurate reflection of the T2A era - with certain qualifications:

1 - "The change I am suggesting will bring people to the shard."
2 - "The change I am suggesting is more fun."
3 - "The change I am suggesting is just as inaccurate/more accurate than another aspect of the shard which is inaccurate."
4 - "The change I am suggesting is more balanced."
5 - "The change I suggest is accurate because it is my recollection." (Although, admittedly, this has worked for me before a few times long in the past - and in fact one of my recollections which was relied on was completely wrong.)
6 - "This change shouldn't be framed as era accuracy..." - tanmits (above)

I concede that there are no defined rules as to all the aforementioned "qualifications" to accuracy and why they are included. We see it over and over again on these forums - runebooks, events, etc. The reality is that the goal is of course accuracy, so if you are concerned about accuracy then there is no point arguing that a certain threshold of accuracy has been overstepped therefore this should justify further inaccuracy. It just takes the shard *futher* away from the shard's intended goal so the argument falls flat - it's time to give it up.

The comments made by Rose and I on this topic give a good example of how you can achieve your suggested changes on this shard. I have personally achieved many, many changes to this shard - sometimes having to rely on creative arguments to at least prove the matter beyond what the counter-argument suggests. There are grey areas. This topic is not a closed subject - that is clear. There are tonnes of resources out there which are not visited/revisted for every single change/subject which is brought up on the shard. Nobody had ever raised the issue that the mini-patch may have been remedial due to it's timing.

To conclude, I give my prescribed format for valid arguments in the context of this shard, these forums, and the subjects on which we discuss:

I suggest change xxxx, it is accurate because yyyy (without relying on any of the inherently invalid arguments 1-6 listed above) and because of yyyy (without relying on any of the inherently invalid arguments 1-6 listed above) the current system should be changed to xxxx.

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Hicha wrote: When you put a bit more effort into your threads so they read like suggestions instead of vaginal complaints, people will begin to take you seriously.

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