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Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:51 pm
by Ronk
I did a brief search and saw nothing...but is this accurate? Should the protection/arch protection spell make it more difficult to stealth?

I need to verify this more when I can find a mage to help me but at GM stealth with just studded leather (and an orc helm) I failed a stealth check and I believe it was due to the arch protection that was on me at the time.

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:36 pm
by Krug'gruk
With full studded (especially GM) and orc helmet, you should expect to fail quite often with stealth. As to the arch-protection question I am not sure.

You'd be hard-pressed to wear full GM leather and an orc helm and not fail at stealth a fair amount of times. If I'm just stealthing around I typically wear a leather tunic and boots and orc helm.

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:40 pm
by Ronk
Krug'gruk wrote:With full studded (especially GM) and orc helmet, you should expect to fail quite often with stealth. As to the arch-protection question I am not sure.

You'd be hard-pressed to wear full GM leather and an orc helm and not fail at stealth a fair amount of times. If I'm just stealthing around I typically wear a leather tunic and boots and orc helm.
Well, to clarify. I actually wear a ringmail tunic but my macro disarms the tunic, activates stealth, and puts the tunic back on. Thus it wasn't actually a full GM studded, it was full minus the tunic.

And ive stealthed with this template for a long time and never had any issues. Hence why in this instance im guessing it was arch protection. (Its possible there was a hidden person nearby with a high detect, I suppose).

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:12 pm
by Rhis
Failed multiple times yesterday with arch protection and full leather suit, at GM stealth (had 23ar total). There was noone around with detect.

It was immediately noticeable as usually a full leather set fails very infrequently for me.

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:01 pm
by iamreallysquall
protect gives you 10 ar and stealth does a ar check so i dont see why you wouldn't expect it to increase your rate to fail

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:02 pm
by Robbbb
iamreallysquall wrote:protect gives you 10 ar and stealth does a ar check so i dont see why you wouldn't expect it to increase your rate to fail
Probably doesnt check WHAT is creating the AR...just what the total AR amount is...

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:05 pm
by MatronDeWinter
Robbbb wrote:
iamreallysquall wrote:protect gives you 10 ar and stealth does a ar check so i dont see why you wouldn't expect it to increase your rate to fail
Probably doesnt check WHAT is creating the AR...just what the total AR amount is...
Stealth probably doesn't check where the AR rating is coming from, just what it is!

Re: Stealth and Arch Protection

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:05 pm
by nightshark
MatronDeWinter wrote:
Robbbb wrote:
iamreallysquall wrote:protect gives you 10 ar and stealth does a ar check so i dont see why you wouldn't expect it to increase your rate to fail
Probably doesnt check WHAT is creating the AR...just what the total AR amount is...
Stealth probably doesn't check where the AR rating is coming from, just what it is!
ITT: We're pretty sure stealth checks your total AR amount, not where it's coming from.