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Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:58 am
by Caliban
Bidding Starts at 20k
Increments of 1k or more
Auction Buyout: Small Deed

Auction ends Monday 26th Sept 7pm EST

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:59 pm
by Ronk
Two things and a free bump...

1. With fede banned it seems the value of hallys has gone out the window.
2. I think yer undercutting yourself on a buy out price. The +25 is whats important with a big damage weapon like a hally, not the force/power/vanq modifier. Though at the same time, im a little surprised you have no bids.

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:52 am
by TheMessy
Caliban wrote:Bidding Starts at 20k
Increments of 1k or more
Auction Buyout: Small Deed

Auction ends Monday 26th Sept 7pm EST
20k

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:42 am
by Matty
20k is a fair price for this weapon.

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:58 pm
by Caliban
bump

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:47 pm
by time2a
25k

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:44 pm
by Halbu
30k

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:53 am
by Caliban
bump

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:12 pm
by Caliban
bump, a little under 3 hours to go

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:27 pm
by Caliban
Halbu wins

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:34 pm
by Mikel123
Ronk wrote:2. I think yer undercutting yourself on a buy out price. The +25 is whats important with a big damage weapon like a hally, not the force/power/vanq modifier.
This is very wrong.

By my math... which you're free to double-check and confirm or refute... I see the following as the damage bonus on a 7xGM, 100 Strength tank mage:

extra damage per hit:
+5: 0.8
+10: 1.7
+15: 2.5
+20: 3.4
+25: 4.2

Here is the info for force/power/vanq on a similar 7xGM with 100 Str tank:

ruin: 1.1
might: 3.2
force: 5.3
power: 7.4
vanq: 9.6

Lower-damage weapons like the Kryss will have comparitively smaller extra damage from tactics, but the damage bonus from force/power/etc will be identical.

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:42 pm
by Mikel123
There is a small interaction effect of damage mods and tactics mods, but ignoring that, you can easily just add up numbers from these groups. So a +25 of Force will give you 4.2 + 5.3 = 9.5 more damage per hit than a store-bought halberd. That makes it approximately equivalent to a vanquishing halberd.

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:39 pm
by time2a
i thot the tactics would icnrease the chance of hitting your target because wuat ur saying is a 25 force hally is same as a regular vanq hally with no tactics. Meaning they wil deliver same range of damage and the amount they hit the target?

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:51 pm
by Ragancy
time2a wrote:i thot the tactics would icnrease the chance of hitting your target because wuat ur saying is a 25 force hally is same as a regular vanq hally with no tactics. Meaning they wil deliver same range of damage and the amount they hit the target?
Tactics does not help for landing hits except with archery. It's a damage modifier. He's right, 25 force ~ vanq roughly in terms of damage.

Re: Fortified +25 Halberd of Force

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:52 pm
by Matty
Ragancy wrote:
time2a wrote:i thot the tactics would icnrease the chance of hitting your target because wuat ur saying is a 25 force hally is same as a regular vanq hally with no tactics. Meaning they wil deliver same range of damage and the amount they hit the target?
Tactics does not help for landing hits except with archery. It's a damage modifier. He's right, 25 force ~ vanq roughly in terms of damage.
u sure? i feel like i hit a lot more often w/ tact