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on provoking...

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:59 am
by BlackLeaf
if chance to provoke is music+provo/2 and is not skill based,does that means that with 100 music alone i have a 50/50 chance of provoking anything into anything (read dragons)?

Re: on provoking...

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:15 pm
by iamreallysquall
music skill passes then it checks your provoke skill

Re: on provoking...

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:16 pm
by itwouldbewise
Hmmm... good question--I don't have the answer. I was always under the impression that it was two independent checks: #1 if you succeed in playing well (music skill check only) and #2 if you succeed in provoking (provocation skill check only)... I never noticed that equation in the wiki before.

It would be easy to test out (either on testing center or on a new char) since getting 100 musicianship only takes a few hours of macroing. If you test it out, post the results... It could be that the wiki formula is wrong.

Re: on provoking...

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:27 pm
by BlackLeaf
done testing.20 fails out of 20 in provoking 2 rats with 100 music and 0 provo.i dont think i will test dragons...
the formula is definitely wrong.

Re: on provoking...

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:06 pm
by archaicsubrosa77
iamreallysquall wrote:music skill passes then it checks your provoke skill
Big argument was made about this but this ^ is how it works not the two skills added then divided by 2.
So its better to go 50/50 if say you wanted to round off a dexxer, or a dungeon thief playing off as a bard and have 100 (+) points to spare.

You can provoke 25 percent of the time going 50/50.

Re: on provoking...

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:19 am
by BlackLeaf
archaicsubrosa77 wrote:You can provoke 25 percent of the time going 50/50.
yeah,this is what i was thinking

Re: on provoking...

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:35 am
by Used Kotex
BlackLeaf wrote:if chance to provoke is music+provo/2 and is not skill based,does that means that with 100 music alone i have a 50/50 chance of provoking anything into anything (read dragons)?
Yeah, no.

2 pass/fail checks are made.

Music skill =% to pass check 1, if succeed :
Provo skill =% to pass check 2, if succeed, Provoke.

So a 50/50 provo dexxer will pass 25% of the time but for a different reason..