UO Second Age

6/11/98 wrote: * Guildmasters can now declare war against other guilds. When the war is mutually declared, a state of war exists. Note that the Declare War window only shows 150 guilds at a time. To get a different set of 150, simply cancel the window and reopen it.
* Members of guilds you are at war with will appear orange.
* Fellow guildmembers will appear green.
* A new free-for-all warfare method exists: order and chaos guilds.
o Order and Virtue guards as they currently exist go away.
o Guildmasters can now declare their guild to be either order or chaos, if they meet the requirements.
o You must be at the third tier of Fame (the level just below Lord) and not be a murderer, in order to join an order or chaos guild.
o Any members who do not meet the requirements when a guild becomes an order or chaos guild will be kicked out of the guild automatically.
o If you are a member of an order or chaos guild, and become a murderer, or lose enough fame to fall below the requirements (by dying or by atrophy), you'll be removed from the guild.
o All members of order and chaos guilds will be forced to display their guild abbreviation at all times. In addition, their abbreviation will automatically be followed by "(Order)" or "(Chaos)".
o If you are a member of an order or chaos guild, and do not have the special shield, you can simply say "order shield" or "chaos shield" to one of the guards of Lord British or Lord Blackthorn (you must ask the appropriate guard for the appropriate shield, of course).
o The shields will no longr disappear immediately. They are also no longer required to be worn.
o For highlighting purposes, all members of guilds of the opposing alignment will appear orange, and can be freely attacked. All members of guilds of the same alignment will appear green, and can also be freely attacked.

10/1/98 wrote:The Fame requirement or joining and staying in order/chaos guilds will be removed.

keuse wrote:if these changes was implemented the chaos/order system would be more dead than it already is.
anyone who wants them implemented just wants to ally kill everyone.

RoadKill wrote:

keuse wrote:if these changes was implemented the chaos/order system would be more dead than it already is.
anyone who wants them implemented just wants to ally kill everyone.

I liked when they had this implemented on OSI. I liked finding more O/C fights in dungeons due to the need for fame. And pair that up with the fact that we have spell damage in town reduced, this would help O/C fights. You'd see more people fighting in dungeons overall.

I understand why there's a chance it wouldn't be added due to the time it was actually in the game, but it was a pretty good system (it seemed to work well on LS I know, that was also before everyone was an asshole on this game. Order guilds wouldn't fight each other, they'd go around together killing off Chaos people)

Flash Hardstar wrote:I have a feeling if you put the fame thing in, you'd see alot less orange cause they'll all be afraid to loose the fame to death cause it's an annoyance to get back, as well as more ganks because people won't risk roling solo anymore.

keuse wrote: UO and the internet community have changed all together since 98.
now everyone is dog eat dog and grief the living shit out of everyone when advantages like this exist.

Hemperor wrote:The fame thing will not have any chance of coming in, but I would say to expect the rest of these changes coming very soon