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Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:59 am
by Kamora
can someone please give me an example of a simple crafting macro? i keep getting an error "thats too far away".

im just trying to macro making scrolls.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:17 am
by aXe
im not quite sure with inscription but basically

Use skill *********
wait for target ( or change to pause .500)
absolute target

or if you have to use an item im guessing it would be

Double click (right click and change to convert type)
wait for target
absolute target (you can set this to convert type as well i.e ingots,scrolls,boards.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:21 am
by Kamora
thanks, but the problem is when i convert to "target type"....sometimes it works, other times i get error message saying "thats too far away".


I miss UO Assist :(

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:25 am
by aXe
Well yeah its a bit awkward, just make sure you got tons in your pack.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:32 am
by Kamora
with 100 starting golds...is impossible to have "tons" of supplies :(

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:40 am
by Red
I'm going to assume that you are changing the target to target by type. It's probably trying to target a scroll that isn't in your bag. Move off screen, or leave the target an 'absolut target' it should work.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:44 am
by Kamora
re-targetting an absolute target does not work either, nor moving off the screen?

how do you make the macro work after you run out of an item (blank scrolls)?

--re-target does not work
--target by type does not work
--leaving it as absolute target does not work.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:30 am
by Kaivan
Sometimes a "target by type" inside a macro will try to target something within the perception of your character. The best thing to do is to search the area around you for about 1-2 screens. If anyone in any house has a visible scroll lying about inside their house, razor might try to use that particular scroll because it is close enough for razor to "see". The only real solution to that kind of problem is to distance yourself from people who might have the kind of item on display that you are targeting. Beyond that, specifically targeting the pile you want to work with might work, but I don't know for sure.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:52 am
by Red
You could use last target to target your resources.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:08 am
by leterrien
The way to solve this problem is to leave it as absolute target, then create a restock macro for the scrolls(set it for a few scrolls). As long as the absolute target never runs out, then the absolute target will not change when your restock agent adds to it. At least it works this way with ingots from my experience.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:29 am
by Hoots
leterrien wrote:The way to solve this problem is to leave it as absolute target, then create a restock macro for the scrolls(set it for a few scrolls). As long as the absolute target never runs out, then the absolute target will not change when your restock agent adds to it. At least it works this way with ingots from my experience.
yes, this is the fix. I have had the issue with inggots, wood, cloth and scrolls. For some reason scolls seem to be much more of a problem than the other resources.

If you are macroing a lot of one scroll using restocks i do the following (using energy bolt as an example)

3 if statements for restock

if pearl < 20 then restock
if Shade < 20 then restock
if scrolls < 20 then restock

the key is i set them all to the same restock macro which grabs 250 scrolls/pearl/shade.

the reason for 3 ifs is often i would wake up with 230 pearl 230 scrolls and 0 shade from a restock lagging up.. With 3 ifs it will restock a particular item if something gets missed.

i also use absolute target as my pile of scrolls should never be below 20 so it will never change its id when it is restocked to 250.

Lastly, i run an organize everytime EB scrolls >= 10 to keep my pack weight down for restocks.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:58 am
by Kamora
Thanks so much everyone for the info! I did not know the target for resources was "area based".


Could someone please just give one complete example of a crafting macro? i still have no idea where to insert the "if" statements?

if pearl < 20 then restock
if Shade < 20 then restock
if scrolls < 20 then restock

And where do i record the "restock" statements??


i doubt a new character with 100 gold could even run this macro? Because the restock would be coming from the npc.

Was Razor only made for established players with a huge supply of resources ??

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:11 pm
by Hoots
Well, ill give this a shot but to start throw the new player with 100 gold out...

if you are macroing with razor you are doing it bc you stocked up some resources to let you craft for either skill gain or sellable goods while you are afk...

That is the main reason.

You cannont macro buying reags from a npc (as that is illegal and considered gathering resources i believe???)

So if you have 500 pearl/root/moss and scrolls and want to run a batch of recalls or even do for skill gain its a great idea.

Here is the general concept.

In your bank (or container in your house) you put your resources.

under agents in razor set a restock to gather what you want
under hot keys in razor set that restock agent to a key stroke. I use ctrl 1 , ctrl 2, etc.
also under agents set a organize agent to move the scribed scroll out of your pack
then also assign this to a key in hotkeys

This is a real general macro concept..

So when you record your macro you would hit ctrl 1 to restock, then use inscription, then target a blank scroll, then select the spell you want to scribe ,add a pause (10-11 seconds) to let the scroll scribe then lastly run a organize.

As you get better with razor you will fine tune things like adding If mana < 20 use skill med for x seconds and other things to improve your macros.

For now, dont worry about getting crazy, see if you can get a simple restock-scribe-organzie macro going and then build from there.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:10 pm
by whoa its shan
don't know if you're still trying to figure it out, but i have a really good macro. Just send me a message and i'll help you out.

Re: Razor is sooo hard to use!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:59 am
by Stealthmode
I've made some pretty complex crafting macros and I have had a bunch of different problems with target by types, I converted them all into last target and just use my newbie on the stack of scrolls before I get started, works great.