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Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:17 am
by UsualSuspect
It was era accurate. Unattended was banishment worthy.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:19 am
by UsualSuspect
Come to think of it, wasn't uoassist illegal during our time period?

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:56 am
by corruption42
UsualSuspect wrote:Come to think of it, wasn't uoassist illegal during our time period?
Nope. It was the first officially supported 3rd party app for UO, and was available by the end of the era.

Now, as for your proposal -- how do you propose to police this? If you're expecting the staff to be able to monitor a shard of 500+ people at the scale that OSI did, you'll be disappointed -- as I understand it, there simply isn't enough staff (and they work for free, on top of that) to police at this level. The decision was made for allowing unattended macroing outside of resource gathering for this very reason.

If you're proposing some sort of automated system; how do you determine whats attended and unattended then?

Either way -- given the current state of the shard, I expect that this will fall on deaf ears.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:43 am
by UsualSuspect
the only way i could think of to police it would to be a yes no box on a timer at random intervals. obviously this would affect non violators. Derrick, work on uosa without razor! :P

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:07 am
by Freight Elevator
Hilarious

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:46 am
by Pac
I would support changing the policy to only allow unattended macroing for skill/stat gain and nothing else. Too much automated crap is turning this shard into a joke.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:50 pm
by The Radical Larry
The Automatons are taking us over! Soon distinguished southern businessmen like myself will be a fleeting memory!

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:09 am
by Ganklord
There Should Be Random Bans For Griefing Like On Osi.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:32 pm
by Boondock_Saint
No banning for grief! It's era accurate.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:37 pm
by inego
unattended macroing is a reason new players will start playing. UO was built on macroing - attended or not.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:28 pm
by Stromverbrauch
Pac wrote:I would support changing the policy to only allow unattended macroing for skill/stat gain and nothing else. Too much automated crap is turning this shard into a joke.
I feel the same way.

I played on OSI from 1998 until Trammel/Fellucca and then On/Off on some German RP shards that weren't really focused around skilling up, but back then I never even heared of Razor.

It's not the macroing I have beef with, I think it's not so bad that people macro lame skills like anatomy to get done with it. But the stuff that Razor does for you ingame is simply mindblowing for someone who is used to playing UO "Vanilla".

You certainly have a huge disadvantage if you don't know how to script macros in Razor.


Era-Accurate for the macroing would be to get sweaty hands in the morning when you check your character to find out if you are in jail or not... :D

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:30 pm
by archaicsubrosa77
Sure, just make certain you pay GMS for their time policing the joint :lol:

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:16 pm
by Light Shade
archaicsubrosa77 wrote:Sure, just make certain you pay GMS for their time policing the joint :lol:
I hear this argument a lot when it comes to striking down proposals. It ignores that the majority of players will follow the rules if they know them. It also ignores player justice...we all know that our playerbase is more than willing to dispatch cheaters.

This leaves the cheaters, who will cheat regardless of a new rule or not...which will leave us with the same number of people to report for the most part. I fail to see how having a new policy or rule would actually change the Admins time policing anything. Sure, the change will have an initial bump in pages, but that fades out over time as knowledge of the change spreads.

Anywho, I'm just saying that I hate this argument that crops up anytime any change is proposed and think it flimsy at best.

As far as a change to the attended macroing policy of this shard is concerned, I think it would absolutely be for the best to limit unattended macroing to character-building only.

It creates a much more interactive environment. It'd certainly be nice to see an interactive world that was more about the players' interaction and less about the unattended gathering and hording of pixels.

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:05 am
by archaicsubrosa77
ah okay character building only makes sense,
wait...what happened did you get hit by archer bots or reg dealers loot the shops?

Re: Proposal for new attended macroing only policy.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:01 am
by MatronDeWinter
It's too late in the servers life to begin a policy like this. Give it a rest.